marketing April 2006

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Two words about the vfudcon
by Damien Durand 30 Apr '06

30 Apr '06

Just two words about this vfudcon, i've presented and explained how to join different fedora projects. The following points were approached : * Fedora ambassador * Fedora triage * Fedora Extras * Fedra arts * Fedora docs * Fedora Website * Fedora legacy The explanation was simple, for each projects: * 1) What the goal of each project is * 2) How to join the project * 3) Answer about each questions Personally, i think that time too court, besides that, the vfudon is a success ;-)

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Re: [Fedora-freemedia-list] REQUEST: INDIA - ZEESHAN CHAWDHARY
by Karlie Robinson 29 Apr '06

29 Apr '06

Hello, Zeeshan. First let me apologize for taking so long to respond to your email. It's not that I had forgotten, I just didn't know what to say. I didn't want to turn down an offer to help, but I didn't know how to accept your gracious offer. Again, so sorry for the delay, but I think I have something... Tell me what you think. If you browse to this page [link 1 below], you'll see there are a lot of Free Media [2] request still waiting to be filled. One way to get people off the waiting list and Fedora Core 5 discs out, is the same way you'll get yours - through Sponsored Media [3] The more sponsors we can get, the more free media requests can be filled in a timely manner. The Fedora Ambassadors and myself would love it if you could help spread the word about Sponsored Media. Then as we get more sponsors then we have Free Media requests, I may call on you to spread the word about Free Media. Thank you again for your Free Media request and your generosity to help. Please feel free to email me with any questions you may have. Karlie Robinson Owner, Webpath Technologies On the Web at: http://webpath.net http://on-disk.com http://portal.on-disk.com [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia/FC5DVD/April?action=sh… [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/SponsoredMedia zeeshan chawdhar wrote: > Thanks for the DVD. > Keep up the good work. > I am a Linux Addict if in future, I can be of any help to you or your > company, please let me know. > > > Thanks and Regards. > Zeeshan Chawdhary.

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vFUDCon: virtual FUDCon
by Chitlesh GOORAH 29 Apr '06

29 Apr '06

Hello everyone, We have launched the vFUDCon Project, a FUDCon that is virtual, of course, but will be accesible with multimedia medium only. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/vFUDCon? >From this sub project of Fedora Marketing we hope, that local ambassadors can extends their marketing perspective through any multimedia medium. The French ambassadors have scheduled one this thursday, on IRC. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/vFUDCon/01France Announcements will be done these following days. (already started on linuxfr) Any suggestions are welcome. Regards, Chitlesh Goorah -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

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fedora logo on wikipedia
by Chitlesh GOORAH 28 Apr '06

28 Apr '06

Can Someone volunteer to change the logo of Fedora in Wikipedia ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Project Cheers, Chitlesh Goorah -- http://clunixchit.blogspot.com

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[OT] A call for input from directory server experts ...
by Bryan Smith 28 Apr '06

28 Apr '06

I'm helping head up development of a broad set real-world objectives that covers Linux-based directory services. To this date, the early focus had only looked at OpenLDAP, prior to the FDS project's existence. Being a longer-term Netscape Directory Server administrator myself (and thank God that Red Hat bought it), I would like to change that by ensuring the objectives reflect "real-world" directory service capabilities in FDS as well as OpenLDAP. So I'm looking for peer experts who have deployed NsDS/RHDS/FDS in the past, ideally with OpenLDAP (or other, general LDAP capabilities of another directory service) experience as well, to help build a set of objectives. It's also welcome to FDS developers as well -- although if you are a Red Hat employee, I understand there might be a "conflict of interest" since Red Hat offers certification/training in its RHCA program. These objectives would cover, in real-world tasks, what an enterprise Linux administrator should know about in deploying and maintaining LDAP (FDS, OpenLDAP, etc...) in an enterprise environment. If anything, it's a good opportunity to expose FDS to many people that assume OpenLDAP is the only option out there. And ensure it in a broad, vendor-neutral, peer-professional organization. If you are interested, please contact me _off-list_. -- Bryan J. Smith, LPIC-2, RHCE -- Bryan J. Smith Professional, Technical Annoyance b.j.smith(a)ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ----------------------------------------------------------- Americans don't get upset because citizens in some foreign nations can burn the American flag -- Americans get upset because citizens in those same nations can't burn their own

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Secret Fedora Handshake?
by Tejas Dinkar 27 Apr '06

27 Apr '06

Hey, How about having a secret Fedora Milk^H^H^H^H^H Handshake? This way we can identify other ambassadors, and just think about how much it will improve our social lives ;). Just think, we can go around saying: You want to try gentoo? Those guys would *die* to know our handshake. And we can teach the handshake to all the new fedora users :) Just imagine the possibilities :) Gja -- <a href="http://www.gja.in">Tejas Dinkar</a> <tejasdinkar AT gmail DOT com>

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MythDora
by Moshe Roffe 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

Hello, I would like to mention The MythDora Distribuiton which is a mixture of Fedora core 4 (Updated) and Myth-TV Package. URL: http://swik.net/MythDora I think all of those distroś could be summarized in a Wiki Page on Fedora Main Site. -- Moshe Roffe, System&Network Administrator RHCE - 803005755016943 Fedora Ambassador, ISRAEL, Western Asia MATRIX-IT

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Sponsored Media still needs a boost
by Karlie Robinson 24 Apr '06

24 Apr '06

Good morning, everyone. Thomas Chung was kind enough to add Sponsored Media [1] to Issue 43 of the Fedora Weekly News. [2] As of this morning, Free Media [3] requests were already backed up 4 days with more than 20 un-filled requests. A good number of requests in the list are for Fedora users in developing nations. It is imperative that we encourage Sponsors for these international requests. After all, the main point of Free Media is to get Fedora to those who may not have the means to get it any other way. It would be an absolute shame if the only requests getting filled were for the USA. (again, thanks to Thomas) It's time to pull out the stops and begin working any and all contacts you may have. If you're a regular on a forum, please make a post about Sponsored Media and the good it will do. If you know (or know of) someone who "mass communicates" either as a member of the Media, has a Blog or a Fan site, please talk with them. If you're not comfortable making the pitch on your own, if you could get me an introduction, I'll be happy to talk with them. The group here can also help you come up with contact/site specific points if you need something tailored. Points to remember with Sponsored Media. *Sometimes all people need to get their generosity flowing is to be asked. *The sponsor need not get a disc if they don't want one. (At least at On-Disk.com [4] We could still use other vendors too) *Fedora itself isn't asking for cash for the project, but there are folks out there who, in the past, have asked to support Fedora financially. If they are still out there and still feel supportive, they can help keep Free Media requests filled. O.K. gang, now let's get down to some good ol' fashion Marketing! ~Karlie [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/SponsoredMedia [2] http://fedoranews.org/wiki/Fedora_Weekly_News_Issue_43 [3] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia [4] http://on-disk.com/content.php?citem=on-disk/2006/Fedora-FreeMedia.php

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Re: [Fedora-ambassadors-list] FISL Update
by Rodrigo Menezes 24 Apr '06

24 Apr '06

Guys, http://projetofedora.org/node/28 Last update. The event was a success, we found a lot of users interested in our Project, big companies that we shall work with to publish their cases, some people interested in Install Parties and other stuff. In all the event was delivered 150 DVDs burned in the event, 1000 flyers talking about the Project and 1000 people talking with us (very good). We made two lectures, the first was with full room and the second one was to show FC5 and talk with the users about the Fedora Project (answer questions). Pablo Barrera was in the event too, we are planning to meet again in Latinoware (I think this will happen in September). Now we are ready with the budget, we'll burn DVDs that will be sent to the users through our website (www.projetofedora.org), we are searching new events and creating a Action Plan to work with companies the we talked in FISL. Thank you all for the support, see you all next time. Rodrigo Menezes puneet batura <puneet_batura(a)users.sourceforge.net> escreveu: On 4/21/06, Rodrigo Menezes <rodrigomenezes12(a)yahoo.com.br> wrote: Hi guys, We are in the second day of FISL event, below you can find some photos. We'll update the website as soon as the event is running. http://projetofedora.org/node/28 We found some guys from Red Hat, Christofer came with OLPC, some Juan Ruiz and other guys. They seen to be happy with ou presence here. We wanna says thanks to you all. Thanks for the update.It seems u have done it with all the best u had. Cheers! and keep up the good work.. :-) Our webdesigner (Jayme Ayres) says: "I'm sorry", because the templates in the website is not good. We'll fix this as soon as we find some time. Thanks guys! Rodrigo Menezes --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz. -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list -- Regards, Puneet Batura Open Source Developer -- Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list Fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list --------------------------------- Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail - 1GB de espaço, alertas de e-mail no celular e anti-spam realmente eficaz.

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Marketing ideas
by Alo Tsum 23 Apr '06

23 Apr '06

I posted this else where but it was suggested I post this to the list serve so here goes Fedora Core 5 is a truly amazing OS and one I think has the potential to really do great things. Looking forward to what the Fedora Project has the potential to do, especially with its new focus I decided to give some suggestions as to what could possibly be done starting with Fedora 6 and onward. Some of my suggestions are definitely based on the OS itself but others are also concerning the general focus and outlook of the Fedora Project itself. I hope my suggestion are not regarded as offensive in anyway and they are only meant to highlight the greatness of Fedora as well as to reflect my strong desire to see this project take off and propel the Linux OS to new heights. First suggestions has to do with the software side of things. We users need a competent software installer which is graphical based. One that functions much the same way that the windows installer works. This installer should track dependencies naturally and place icons on the desktop or give the option to have icons for the software just installed to be placed on the desktop of the user as well as in the applications menu. Also when watching the Boston Linux conference the suggestion was made to offer a hard disc manager much like windows offers for formating and receiving hard drivers etc after installation. My second set of suggestions will deal with the over all focus and structure of the fedora project. I was listening to a pod cast interview with the head of the fedora project where in, the topic came up of some how generating revenue to put back into the project and make it more self sufficient. So I have a few suggestions which I think the Redhat company itself should take note of. Firstly Redhat while promoting Linux among enthusiast is also in the business of making money. On that front I believe that they should not only attempt to evangelize Linux in the government, education, and corporate sectors; they should also attempt to get Linux in each and every home. The reason being is if people are starting to use Linux in their homes and they are comfortable with it, employers will be more likely and willing to deploy a operating system which is different in many ways to windows on the interactive level. Reason being is when people have to stop to learn new technology this cuts down on productivity and as a person who works for a IT department in a major university I can also vouch for the fact a IT team will not be willing to suggest an infrastructure restructuring when they know, supporting users on something foreign to them is going to increase their workload 10 fold. So bottom line, more users both advanced, intermediate and beginners need to be converted to the Linux faithful but now the question becomes how? The Fedora project is the perfect tool for this and here is how. The fedora team should focus SOLELY on making the operating system run as smoothly and as fast as possible, interacting with a HUGE number of hardware configurations. Installation needs to be as smooth as silk and upgrading needs to be fail proof from version to version. Previously installed drives with personal user data needs to be able to be retained without fail from upgrade to upgrade if the user isn't doing a clean install. Now I would like to move on to "partnerships" Fedora project should look into making "partners" or some other creative term to define other Linux projects and organizations. In this partnership Fedora will tightly enforce standards which will ensure that any software created to run on fedora is following say the OIN and the GPL standards to the letter to ensure an user friendly and secure/stable operating system that runs smoothly. Many people in the Linux community may grumble about this suggestion however life is about progression and when things do not change and evolve and progress to new levels then they are doomed to become extinct (think dinosaurs here) or at the very least remain niche applications. If Fedora project implements such a model, they do not have to worry about making certain software for the OS which would take far to much time and man power to create. Prime example would be the hard disk manager or even the software installer. This sort of work could be left to groups who's soul purpose is to make such software and by following strict guidelines they would become Fedora project "partners" and in turn they would be promised that their software will be included in the fedora core release. Also by following strict guidelines this software could be implemented in other Linux distributions which are also following said guidelines. This would take the pressure off of Fedora and they can then focus on whats important which is making their OS run like silk. Again let me stress this approach is keeping in mind that projects such as Fedora and other Linux distributions desire to penetrate more into the home desktop market, which then also means more users will or could eventually equate to greater adoption of the platform in other industries as a result of user awareness and user comfort with the Linux platform. I should also mention that those software development groups that do not comply could be offered as Fedora extras so the community still has choices which is really part of the appeal of Linux. Okay so with all that said how could this generate income? Well lets say Fedora project comes up with one of the first 100% standard enforced distributions which is as user friendly or even more so than MS windows. Now say a "ambassador" from Fedora can start making the rounds to Dell and other companies and attempt to get them to start offering this FREE Linux distribution on some of their PC models, which would also allow for lower prices on the retail side for them (ie Dell, Gateway etc.) as the OS is FREE and that cuts down on cost which the end user ends up incurring. But we still have not addressed revenue for the Fedora project, and this can be done by following the Redhat model of offering technical support. Fedora project could basically offer technical support certification and training to Dell staff as an example so they (the PC manufacturer) can then take over supporting the platform for their end users, which also equates to revenue for these companies in the long run because they can offer extended tech support to end users at a premium. Fedora core could charge a VERY minimal fee for this training, so say charge enough that it would generate revenue that can then be pumped back into the project and at the same time would still make it cheaper for Dell and other companies to go with Linux on some desktop offerings as opposed to having a windows only offering. The future of Linux if to be taken seriously should not be relegated to just the business, government, and education world as far as standards, reliability, and software / hardware vendor support is concerned. The brand will grow far more rapidly if consumers are adopting the standard at home and at work so basically this is a bottom up approach. This of this, more desktop users in the home also means more software sales for major companies because you will have more people buying video games and other such things which will also mean more companies willing to adopt the platform because software offering become greater. There needs to be a consorted effort on the parts of all parties involved to take Linux to that next phase of existence other wise Linux as a brand, while it may grow some what will not see its full potential. With the software being a open and free model we still have to realize with a flurry of hodge podge coding and no standards insight the end user ends up losing at least as far as the home front is concerned. Most people are forced to run duel boot Windows and Linux systems because software makers and hardware manufactures have not fully bought into the Linux model and we as a community only have ourselves to blame for that. This approach will also take some evangelizing to the software makers of such things as yum and KDE however I believe that those who do not see the need and importants of doing such things will render themselves obsolete in the long run. Just look at the Unix model, and we can see what the disasters of not doing this can incur.

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