trans-ar July 2004

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system-switch-im
by Mohamed Eldesoky 07 Aug '04

07 Aug '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Newly released package I have taken it, and won't be able to complete it all, will release it as soon as I feel I am hanged ! - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/3Qq2FHsOWMJBKMRAjkeAJ4gLfnKRG8V6UxPW2EoeqYL5bHKngCfVLEp O7tVyyghTUYYZj1DLXxrWrQ= =1m1a -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Arabic is ready for FC3
by Mohamed Eldesoky 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

>From looking to this link, we can see that almost all of the needed modules are done ! http://elvis.redhat.com/cgi-bin/i18n-status?page=status&branch=HEAD&locale=… :-) Waiting for your Basem to make Anaconda really Arabic enabled. But I think we should work fast, I think if we didn't catch any of the test releases of Fedora, we have no chance to see it in the FC3 Sherif, your update ! -- Regards Mohamed Eldesoky RedHat Certified Engineer gpg-key 0x9EE89D6A

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Translation and QA status
by Mohamed Eldesoky 02 Aug '04

02 Aug '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Anything I can do ?? Do you want me to review any files, Munzir ?? - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA/lOl2FHsOWMJBKMRAnwyAKDfj2JT6YaaM+CqXpMkFYRyGXTxSgCgsGXl aLUbjZabKZYb3nmvdVsVefo= =B8Cv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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firstboot
by Mohamed Eldesoky 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have finished with rhgb, Munzir, please do the usual QA. I am taking firstboot ps, debug ?? What should it be translated to ?? Sometimes I have seen إزالة العلل And other times I see تنقيح I think the second one is more appealing !! But what I think shouldn't be the right thing !! - -- Regards Mohamed Eldesoky RedHat Certified Engineer gpg-key 0x9EE89D6A -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA98HG7wtZqJ7onWoRAoqgAJwJN8Gde5Z26fIy3Ju2intdMxFXfQCgyw3K l2iawHajfJrF7h7lk/yFQ+M= =skT/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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mojtabanow@msn.com
by mojtaba eltayeb 19 Jul '04

19 Jul '04

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rhgb
by Mohamed Eldesoky 18 Jul '04

18 Jul '04

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I will take rhgb module - -- Mohamed Eldesoky Systems Engineer RedHat Certified Engineer TE Data -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA9Rct2FHsOWMJBKMRAtAJAJ9UvTjxrPmYV3M4CdwoR3U1Sxw+AgCg5k1J 1CVGBBYOjKWZDBU9nQcBxmw= =OPgk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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keep-up with Basem
by Basem Narmok 18 Jul '04

18 Jul '04

Salam all, This email to keepup with me -I may need some help- What am doing now: * fixing RTL issues in Anaconda: 1- The Next - Prev buttons -in English ( <- -> ) in Arabic ( -> <- ) [FIXED] 2- Text installation no RTL [Working on it: am trying to use bicon from Arabeyes, new RPM for it, included in the instroot image ...] (I need your feedback on this issue, I will provide a link to download bicon rpm after uploading it) 3- some other graphical issues 4- shortcuts in Arabic Note: after doing (1,3) I will post a patch to anaconda-devel-list - Insha Allah-, *screenshots* in the way too. * The translation: Am facing some problems concerning cvs connection after public-key change. [Sarah helps me in this issue, Thank you Sarah] Salam Basem Narmok

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Towards a better consistent translation...
by Munzir Taha 14 Jul '04

14 Jul '04

My previous experience in translations is very fruitful to me. Many of the things which I haven't been able to take a decision about have been clear to me now. I made my choices of what's the best way to handle many issues. I would like to discuss these things here if you don't mind changing what have been stated before. First, we agree together that our role is to provide quality and consistent translation, right? Consistency is the point I want to stress here. I will begin with acronyms. I am strongly in favor of leaving those as they are without trying to type them in Arabic letters. KDE should never be translated as كي دي إي nor as كيدي. ِA professional translator in our team, alhadi, has mentioned that official and certified translation deal with them like this. He mentioned a lot of stuff regarding United Nations translation standard (IIRC). see the botton of this page, please: http://translate.sourceforge.net/doc/translation-new-words Transliteration will get the translators in problems regarding how is it pronounced and space issues. The first will carry a lot of unnecessary discussion of what's the correct pronounciation and the lator would force the translator to know the context and decide whether the space allowed for the msgstr will suffice. Besides being difficult, it would cause inconsistency which is very bad and unprofessional. Let's see to which extent we can agree ;) -- Munzir Taha PGP Key available gpg --recv-keys --keyserver www.mandrakesecure.net F0671821 Telecommunications and Electronics Engineer Linux Registered User #279362 at http://counter.li.org Mandrake Club member Maintainer of the Open Arabic Bugs Project at http://wiki.arabeyes.org/OpenBugs CIW Designer, ICDL, MOUS New Horizons CLC Riyadh, SA

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Place for Reviews & Docs
by Sherif Abdelgawad 12 Jul '04

12 Jul '04

I am offering a host for having the needed place to hold WIKI, BLog & Documentation. I did upload the PO files mapping the current CVS with all the translated PO files to-date. For the people who does not know how to check out files from CVS, and only interested to review the translation. Please have a look at : http://www.arabic-fedora.org/index.php?option=com_docman&Itemid=40 You will find a section for "Fedora Core PO Files". You can review the files there, you can upload new files, documents related to any discussions or suggestions. We can maintain WIKI & Document Management over there for any reviews. I also had a rating system so people can rate certain work. Let me know if this something might ease the work here, or you would like to use some other method. I am just offering this from my person view to get things done, and as I had the space and the site for some other project (which yet I did not lunch), but thought of using it now. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks Sherif

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Vote!!! Which translation is better..
by maha helwa 11 Jul '04

11 Jul '04

Helloo All.. It seems this translation is not an easy thing to do at all.. i need your opinion in what i find out.. First.. some words was strange or confusing me.. like these: >"Directories","ÇáÃÏáøÉ".. I guess: "ãÌáÏÇÊ" is much better and meaningful. >"Virtual Host", "ãÖíÝ æåãíø" my guess: "ÇáãÖíÝ ÇáÇÝÊÑÇÖì" >"Logging","ÇáÊøÓÌíá".. There won't be a difference between this word and "Registration", could it be another word something like ÇáÏÎæá ?! >'Options','ÎíÇÑÇÊ' ÎíÇÑÇÊ or ÇÎÊíÇÑÇÊ ..it's fine but Id like to know if there is a difference. >"Default": "ÅÝÊÑÇÖì" or "ÅÚÊíÇÏì" which better!! >"Error Code": ÑãÒ ÇáÎØÃ or "ßæÏ ÎÇØÆ" >Site Configuration: "ÊåíÆÉ ÇáãæÞÚ" or ÅÚÏÇÏ ÇáãæÞÚ >"Configuration File": ãáÝ ÇáÊøåíÆÉ or "ãáÝ ÇáÅÚÏÇÏ" >'Password': 'ßáãÉ ãÑæÑ' ..i guess "ßáãÉ ÓÑ" much better.. Second the sentences itself.. some lost the whole meaning. I modified some sentence. And would like to know your feedback which better: (Vote) > The configuration file has been manually modified. Overwrite?: 1. ãáÝ ÇáÊøåíÆÉ Êãø ÊÚÏíáå íÏæíøÇð. åá ÃßÊÈ Úáíå¿" 2. áÞÏ Êã ÊÛííÑ ãáÝ ÇáÅÚÏÇÏ åáì ÊÑíÏ ÍÐÝ ÇáãáÝ ÇáÞÏíã ¿ > The Edit an existing alias for the hostname:\n: 1. ÚÏøá ÇÓãÇð ÈÏíáÇð ãÓÈÞ ááãÖíÝ:\n 2.\n:ÚÏá ÇÓã ÇáÈÏíá ÇáÍÇáì ááãÖíÝ¿ > Edit an existing alias:: 1. "ÚÏøá ÇÓãÇð ÈÏíáÇð ãÓÈÞ:" 2. ÚÏøá ÇáÇÓã ÇáÈÏíá ÇáÍÇáí >"A directory named %s already exists." 1."åäÇß Ïáíá ÇÓãå %s ãæÌæÏ ãÓÈÞÇð." 2." %s ÓÈÞ æÌæÏ åÐÇ ÇáãÌáÏ ÈåÐÇ ÇáÅÓã " 3."ãæÌæÏ ãÓÈÞÇð %s åÐÇ ÇáãÌáÏ " >"Only absolute directories are allowed.": 1. "ÇáÃÏáøÉ ÇáãØáÞÉ ÝÞØ åí ÇáãÓãæÍÉ. 2.ãÓãæÍ ÝÞØ ÈÇáãÌáÏÇÊ ÐÇÊ ÇáãÓÇÑ ÇáßÇãá" Thats just a sample.. still the rest of the file didnt finish it But we have to settle a way to decide which most translation is most properly translated without losing its meaning.. the whole context meaning.!.. Dont know if we did Voting on the available translations and then the highest score is the right one. Lets try it as beginning, and if someone else have better idea ..let us know!! Ill tell you the rest when I finish this file. Insha2 ALLAH. BR, Maha. ------- Knowledge is a big responsibility..

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