irc-support-sig May 2011

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[irc-support-sig] #53: You guys rock
by fedora-badges 03 Jun '11

03 Jun '11

#53: You guys rock ----------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Reporter: newbie007 | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: trivial | Milestone: Fedora 14 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | ----------------------+----------------------------------------------------- Everytime I have come to #fedora I have been given great assistance. From stupid small things to large broken things. #fedora makes open source better. The few times I could not be helped it was because I garbled my system so badly that I was in the area of stupid-for-asking (we're talking aptrpms on top of mythdora taken from a dvd magizine, 32 bit mixed with 64 bit, 4 different window mangers, with my own randomness added). fenrus02, nirik are geniuses and very polite. I have learned that everything they say is correct. I have never witnessed a time when something they said was not correct. EvilBob on the other hand is just a jerk ;) This feedback is: {{{ [X] Positive [ ] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is: newbie007 Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: Any additional notes or logs: Thanks for your feedback! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/53> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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Plan for tomorrow's irc support sig meeting (2011-05-26)
by Robert 'Bob' Jensen 26 May '11

26 May '11

Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2011-05-26) meeting, which will be held at 17:00UTC/13:00Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in the "open floor" section of the meeting. #topic Week in review http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html #topic feedback tickets https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 -- Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Robert 'Bob' Jensen || Fedora Unity Founder | | bob(a)fedoraunity.org || http://fedoraunity.org/ | | http://bjensen.fedorapeople.org/ | | http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen | | http://www.facebook.com/rpjensen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[irc-support-sig] #52: all, what package replaced zenmap?
by fedora-badges 26 May '11

26 May '11

#52: all, what package replaced zenmap? ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Reporter: eckirchn | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 14 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [X] Positive [ ] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is:eckirchn Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: simple answer by fenrus02 Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: nothing, answer was straight and to the point. Any additional notes or logs: I didn't know that 'yum search' would tell me that i could findout that zenmap had been replaced by nmap-frontend.. Thanks for your feedback! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/52> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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[irc-support-sig] #51: nirik - hats off
by fedora-badges 26 May '11

26 May '11

#51: nirik - hats off ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Reporter: marafa | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 15 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [X] Positive [ ] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is: Egyptian[Laptop] Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: This happened some while ago, but since this trac is here i wanted to say thanks to nirik. He helped me configure my sandybridge video on my laptop. He suggested i upgrade from 14 to 15 then worked with me to get a good video resolution. So to nirik: THANK YOU Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: cant remember what date so i am not gonna go look for the logs Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: be friendly, helpful, nirik went the extra mile Any additional notes or logs: Thanks for your feedback! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/51> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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[irc-support-sig] #50: Silenced and insulted within minutes for a polite disagreement.
by fedora-badges 26 May '11

26 May '11

#50: Silenced and insulted within minutes for a polite disagreement. ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Reporter: erodgers | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 14 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [ ] Positive [X] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is: erodgers Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: Below find the transcript. Joined IRC for the first time with the honest intent to help and play nice. I rubbed a regular the wrong way and was quieted. A newbie user was having great difficulty with a basic task, and was put down for trying to do "sudo su". I attempted to explain why this was a valid method in the README containing the instruction, and was put down as spreading false and wrong info. I did escalate the issue a bit because I was flustered by the harsh treatment, and I am sorry for that. I'm only here because I feel it is a big mistake to IMMEDIATELY attack a new contributor. I know for a fact that I spread no false information as I was accused of, and this is all a big misunderstanding. The user with the driver issue was quite green and wearing on all of us a bit, so I understand the animosity toward him, unpleasant as it was. Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: zeitgeist Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: I'd simply like to make it known that people reaching out to help others with Fedora need a bit more patience than I received. Any additional notes or logs: <smithxi> dcr226: can you just tell me how to make the package from the command line if it's on the desktop? <zeitgeist> smithxi·: su - yum install kernel-devel exit cd ~/Desktop/realtek-package make su - make install; depmod -ae; reboot <smithxi> i can't cd as root <zeitgeist> can't can't can't <dcr226> failed to type "exit" <zeitgeist> i see you saying "i can't" quite a lot.. <smithxi> make package-name said nothing to do <erodgers> After make; su -, need to cd back to user desktop. <smithxi> nothing to be done for... <zeitgeist> i suggest you copy what i just typed out to a text file, i won't be typing it again. <-- MostafaDaneshvar has quit (Quit: Leaving) --> AppelonD (~AppelonD(a)0x5551c026.adsl.cybercity.dk) has joined #fedora <-- cheater__ has quit (Quit: Leaving) <zeitgeist> every command i gave you above should be given from the ~/Desktop/realtek (or whatever this folder is) folder. to determine what dir/folder you're in use: pwd the print working directory (pwd) command tells you where you are <smithxi> i'm in the directory <-- KageSenshi has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) <smithxi> i try to make the package as user and it won't let me <dcr226> smithxi, yum install @development-tools smithxi, also *hint* slow down and read stuff <zeitgeist> smithxi·: it's a tar file, untar it first <smithxi> oh crap, that's what i forgot <zeitgeist> you don't "make the package" . you untar it and make the files within it <smithxi> how do I untar <dmlloyd> Add/Remove software seems to be stuck in a "Waiting in Queue" state. Is there some process or lock file I should look for to fix it? <zeitgeist> read the tar manpage or use file-roller i.e. just click on it <erodgers> tar -zxvf <file> <-- gholms|work (~gholms@fedora/gholms) has left #fedora ("Leaving.") <dcr226> dmlloyd, how long have you been waiting? <dmlloyd> a day or so :) <dcr226> yuck <dmlloyd> I've been doing yum on the command line in the meantime <smithxi> thank you <zeitgeist> haha <dmlloyd> but now I want to use the gui to install some games for these guys <zeitgeist> dmlloyd·: yum should always be engaged on the command line --> pinhead (~pinhead(a)178-190-255-217.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has joined #fedora <dmlloyd> gotta have tuxracer! <zeitgeist> use yumex <dcr226> dmlloyd, I don't use add/remove (since about F7 I think), but I'd be tempted to just use yum from now on or yumex, yeah <dmlloyd> yumex, hm sounds fun I'll try it I wonder if I can uninstall add/remove then <dcr226> just ignore it, thats what I do <dmlloyd> if I leave stuff around they're just gonna use it :) <zeitgeist> yumex is a far more robust gui, but should only be used during multiple package installs <dmlloyd> I would if it were for me --> Dp67 (~rberry@fedora/N3LRX) has joined #fedora <zeitgeist> you should always use yum from the command line, much easier to get help if something goes wrong --> KageSenshi (~kagesensh@fedora/KageSenshi) has joined #fedora <-- Scrum (~Pietro(a)189-72-5-57.paemt702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) has left #fedora gcasella has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) diap has quit (Remote host closed the connection) AppelonD has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) <dmlloyd> yeah I prefer yum when I know exactly what package I want to add or remove <-- Tac_Home has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) <dcr226> dmlloyd, well, there is always yum search <-- cobra-the-joker has quit (Remote host closed the connection) <dmlloyd> yeah that's good but sometimes you want to browse by category I don't think search does category, does it? <dcr226> I guess not <-- smithxi has quit (Remote host closed the connection) <zeitgeist> if you're creative with your query it can do pretty much whatever you want <-- jessicajames has quit (Quit: Leaving) --> bitkiller (~bitkiller(a)189.26.56.119.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #fedora <erodgers> yum info is good, but I agree, I like having a categorized list. <dcr226> I'm a big fan of yum, I spent some time last month digging around inside it - very complete imho <-- pinhead (~pinhead(a)178-190-255-217.adsl.highway.telekom.at) has left #fedora --- supervacuo is now known as superacuo <dcr226> hence the reason fedbot now knows how to yum @rversion 14 x32 tuxracer <-- ToKy has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) --> smithxi (~mesof(a)adsl-68-248-226-125.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #fedora <fedbot> dcr226: sorry, I was unable to locate that package. To use this plugin, you must be specific with package names <-- tazer72 has quit (Quit: leaving) <smithxi> okay I did it properly, but i still don't see a wireless option in the tray icon <dcr226> ok, so fedbot doesn't know how to yum :-) <smithxi> dcr226: you still here? <dcr226> smithxi, lspci -k | fpaste <nirik> sure it does, there's just no package named that. ;) @rversion 14 x32 extremetuxracer <fedbot> nirik: extremetuxracer-0.4-3.fc12.i686 Fedora 14 - i386|size 26MB|Date Fri Jul 24 12:00:00 2009 nirik: extremetuxracer-0.4-5.fc14.i686 Fedora 14 - i386 - Updates|size 26MB|Date Mon Nov 15 12:00:00 2010 <smithxi> dcr226: http://fpaste.org/Pa92/ <dcr226> nirik, ok so its actually *me* that doesn't know how to yum ;-) smithxi, the module still isn't loaded. did you make install and depmod? <zeitgeist> smithxi·: after you build and install the driver as per my instructions, you have to reboot <smithxi> i did not depmod <zeitgeist> critical: <zeitgeist> make install; depmod -ae; reboot not too good at details.. <smithxi> thank you <fedbot> Please visit our trac instance at https://fedorahosted.org/irc- support-sig/ and file a feedback ticket telling us about your experience in #fedora. Thanks in advance for your feedback. --- Klainn is now known as Klainn-away <smithxi> that wasn't in the tutorial <-- smithxi has quit (Remote host closed the connection) <zeitgeist> yea, i didn't type that out to you 23 minutes ago or anything * zeitgeist often hallucinates <Southern_Gentlem> time to switch out the IV **yawn* --> Asuryan (~vally(a)p5DDB7BE1.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #fedora <zeitgeist> more #fedora-mkultra experiments? --> smithxi (~mesof(a)adsl-68-248-226-125.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has joined #fedora <-- radez has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3) <smithxi> okay it is done, but I do not see any wireless options in the popup dialogue <dcr226> smithxi, does lspci -k report your module yet? --> arall (~adam(a)50-48-86-217.dsl2-fairport.ny.frontiernet.net) has joined #fedora <smithxi> http://fpaste.org/CMLg/ how can I tell if it's reported? <dcr226> read your own fpaste <smithxi> but what indicated it? 02:00.0? <dcr226> the bit that says "Kernel driver in use:" * dcr226 nods <smithxi> kernel driver in use: atllc so it is in use? <-- nmudgal has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) <zeitgeist> no <-- arall has quit (Client Quit) <zeitgeist> after all the clumsy behavior, i'd guess you didn't do it correctly --> ardian (~ardian@fedora/ardian) has joined #fedora <zeitgeist> for you, i'd suggest installing F15 <erodgers> 2nd <smithxi> the only error displayed was something about needs -E not -e <zeitgeist> the driver is built in to the kernel, i don't think you have the aptitude to manually install wireless drivers <smithxi> zeitgeist: can I just upgrade to it? <zeitgeist> no it really drains the room when a 5 minute job turns into hours <smithxi> would -AE fix it instead of -ae? <dcr226> no reading would fix it --> FastZ (~root(a)207.144.121.221) has joined #fedora <-- FastZ (~root(a)207.144.121.221) has left #fedora <zeitgeist> also reading the README that comes with the official realtek package --> Cygnia (~cygnia(a)76-191-203-178.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) has joined #fedora FastZ (~root(a)207.144.121.221) has joined #fedora jonkri (~jonkri___@pontarius/jon) has joined #fedora <-- FastZ (~root(a)207.144.121.221) has left #fedora <smithxi> i can't sudo su --> sraue (~stephan@xbmc/staff/sraue) has joined #fedora * dcr226 goes for the litmus test... <dcr226> smithxi, modprobe -l | grep 8192 | fpaste <smithxi> errors on line 995 and 97 <zeitgeist> uh, sudo and su are 2 different things completely unrelated nowhere did i (or anyone else) tell you to "sudo su" <smithxi> well the directions say "sudo su" <zeitgeist> then they are written by someone who understands neither <smithxi> dcr226: http://fpaste.org/nWUZ/ <erodgers> I do it all the time. It's written for a machine with no root password. <zeitgeist> you do it all the time, so that makes it right because you do something you don't understand? <dcr226> sudo su makes no sense at all <smithxi> how do you reboot into the latest kernel? dcr226: how do you reboot into the latest kernel? <erodgers> I'm just saying, if you have no root password, sudo su - does the trick. amy people work this way, including apparently the author of the RT README. <zeitgeist> it's WRONG. <erodgers> k. <zeitgeist> read the manpage for each, <N3LRX> if you are updated your machine will automatically boot to the latest kernel on next reboot unless you choose otherwise. <dcr226> +1, pointless <zeitgeist> it doesn't make any sense <erodgers> 15 works that way by default. --> gcasella (gcasella@CPE002699744f9b- CM00222d5a86fd.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #fedora <dcr226> no it doesn't <smithxi> 15 has the drivers I need? <dcr226> 15 has sudo enabled by default <zeitgeist> good god. <erodgers> Click "Admin user" on install for your regular user. <zeitgeist> dcr226·: have fun with these chuckleheads <dcr226> and you optionally get added to %wheel if you click "admin user" zeitgeist, I'm outta here - Tea calling :-) * zeitgeist high 5's dcr226 <erodgers> Yes. No biggie. Just saying. <zeitgeist> just saying "you're wrong" <erodgers> Not really, but OK. <EvilBob-Vote4Me> Tea? Is that what you are calling her this week instead of $HOTDATE dcr226? ;) <smithxi> will drivers eventually just be released? <dcr226> LOL <zeitgeist> you can take our advice and LEARN, or you can continue on with false info <dcr226> EvilBob-Vote4Me, she tidied the house today....scary <erodgers> Would you like to hear from me why I'm not wrong? <zeitgeist> no, because you are. <smithxi> zeitgeist: what do I need to do? <erodgers> There you go. <zeitgeist> smithxi·: go install f15, or windows <smithxi> f15 will simply have the drivers? <zeitgeist> yes <smithxi> where can I download it? <zeitgeist> as i've said at least 3 times now really? <EvilBob-Vote4Me> F15 will be released on next Tuesday <erodgers> It went gold yesterday. <-- smarthall has quit (Read error: Operation timed out) <zeitgeist> erodgers·: end your trolling nonsense <EvilBob-Vote4Me> the final release candidate is basically the same and available at http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15.RC3/Fedora/ <erodgers> Sorry, looks like we got off on the wrong foot. <zeitgeist> you have only given out false or incorrect information <erodgers> Harsh, and wrong. <smithxi> EvilBob-Vote4Me: will there be a cd version? will wireless drivers ever just be released for 14? <dcr226> erodgers, you should perhaps read the manpage for both sudo and su <EvilBob-Vote4Me> smithxi: Apparently not <erodgers> <-RHCE, 15 years sysadmin. <EvilBob-Vote4Me> smithxi: I can not comment on the drivers question <smithxi> such bs <zeitgeist> erodgers·: bs. <Southern_Gentlem> erodgers, take my advise and drop it, and go take a break <dcr226> smithxi, doubtful, they are a part of newer kernels. which I doubt will end up on f14 <erodgers> Want my number? <EvilBob-Vote4Me> erodgers: zip it back up, no one wants to take part in your contest <Southern_Gentlem> erodgers, second warning <erodgers> 805010794254612 <Southern_Gentlem> @quiet erodgers --- fedbot sets mode +q #fedora erodgers!*@* fedbot sets mode -q #fedora erodgers!*@* <fedbot> erodgers, You have been quieted in this channel temporarily. Please read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Channel_FAQ and consider changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting the channel. If you feel this action was in error, please file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ <fedbot> Please visit our trac instance at https://fedorahosted.org/irc- support-sig/ and file a feedback ticket telling us about your experience in #fedora. Thanks in advance for your feedback. * dcr226 hrms <smithxi> well thanks for the help guys, i'll try 15 bye <-- smithxi (~mesof(a)adsl-68-248-226-125.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net) has left #fedora <EvilBob-Vote4Me> smithxi: Best of luck --- fedbot sets mode +q #fedora erodgers!*@* <fedbot> erodgers, You have been quieted in this channel temporarily. Please read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Channel_FAQ and consider changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting the channel. If you feel this action was in error, please file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ <-- KageSenshi has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) bitkiller has quit (Quit: Leaving) --> bitkiller (~bitkiller(a)189.26.56.119.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #fedora BladeFreak (~BladeFrea@unaffiliated/bladefreak) has joined #fedora <-- bitkiller has quit (Client Quit) --> KageSenshi (~kagesensh@fedora/KageSenshi) has joined #fedora bitkiller (~bitkiller(a)189.26.56.119.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) has joined #fedora e-jones (~jkastner(a)ip-84-242-102-36.net.upcbroadband.cz) has joined #fedora <jpuellma> that guy's not really being disruptive in my scrollback; looks like he just doesn't think there's any problem with someone wantign to sudo su Thanks for your feedback! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/50> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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Plan for tomorrow's irc support sig meeting (2011-05-18)
by Robert 'Bob' Jensen 19 May '11

19 May '11

Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2011-05-18) meeting, which will be held at 17:00UTC/13:00Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in the "open floor" section of the meeting. #topic Week in review http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html #topic feedback tickets https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 -- Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Robert 'Bob' Jensen || Fedora Unity Founder | | bob(a)fedoraunity.org || http://fedoraunity.org/ | | http://bjensen.fedorapeople.org/ | | http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen | | http://www.facebook.com/rpjensen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[irc-support-sig] #49: Kudos to dgrift in #fedora-selinux
by fedora-badges 14 May '11

14 May '11

#49: Kudos to dgrift in #fedora-selinux ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Reporter: gholms | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 15 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [X] Positive [ ] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is: gholms Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: I stopped by #fedora-selinux for help confining a supybot instance. Dominick helped me figure out the policy's requirements and spent the next several hours writing policy and helping me test it out while explaining what things mean along the way. I appreciate his patience, level of detail, and willingness to explain things. Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: (none) Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: None needed; I am pleased with the entire interaction. Any additional notes or logs: If any of you are interested in a starting point for confining zodbot or fedbot, just ask me and I can post my log of the session and/or the policy I ended up with. Thanks for your feedback! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/49> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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Plan for tomorrow's irc support sig meeting (2011-05-12)
by Robert 'Bob' Jensen 12 May '11

12 May '11

Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2011-05-12) meeting, which will be held at 17:00UTC/13:00Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in the "open floor" section of the meeting. #topic Week in review http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html #topic feedback tickets https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 -- Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Robert 'Bob' Jensen || Fedora Unity Founder | | bob(a)fedoraunity.org || http://fedoraunity.org/ | | http://bjensen.fedorapeople.org/ | | http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen | | http://www.facebook.com/rpjensen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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[irc-support-sig] #47: Unnecessary abruptness amidst general helpfulness.
by fedora-badges 06 May '11

06 May '11

#47: Unnecessary abruptness amidst general helpfulness. ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Reporter: chibapet | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 14 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | ---------------------+------------------------------------------------------ Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [ ] Positive [ ] Negative [x] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is: ChibaPet Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: fenrus02 was being mildly rude, which came as a surprise given the generally friendly nature of the channel. I was asked to leave feedback. Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: fenrus02 primarily Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: Participants could perhaps not be told to go away. I asked a general question that applied to Fedora, and I believe the question and answer to both be on-topic. "I installed a package this way. It was an error. What are my options for cleaning it up?" Any additional notes or logs: Ah, wow, the angry little fellow managed to silence me in the channel. He became abusive when I offered an answer to a user who was wondering about encryption during install. He went on a tear about how I was wrong and shouldn't talk. And then I was silenced. What a horrible experience. I'd suggest getting rid of fenrus02. He's quite rude and his behaviour suggests mental illness. Here's a log: (04:10:54 PM) ChibaPet: Babalau, I'm guessing here that it's offering to turn on LVM encryption. (04:11:04 PM) AstralStorm: fenrus02, yeah right, nothing stands out (04:11:06 PM) ChibaPet: Oh, he left. (04:11:18 PM) fenrus02: AstralStorm, then it's not in any of your configured repos. (04:11:36 PM) AstralStorm: so it's not in the main repo at all. weird (04:11:36 PM) AstralStorm: which repo should I add then? (04:11:44 PM) fenrus02: ChibaPet, dont give out bad / misleading advice. you cannot "turn on" that at all. (04:11:51 PM) talisein: uckelman, http://library.gnome.org/admin/system- admin-guide/stable/gconf-9.html.en (04:12:12 PM) ChibaPet: Fenrus, that's neither bad nor misleading at all. Perhaps you need to learn about LVM? (04:12:14 PM) AstralStorm: or is there some tool that makes finding external repositories easier? (04:12:18 PM) talisein: uckelman, what i would do is make 2 launcher apps on your toolbar that you click that would switch the font (04:12:28 PM) uckelman: talisein: Aha, yes. (04:12:29 PM) fenrus02: ChibaPet, perhaps you should do the same. how long have you been using it exactly? (04:12:38 PM) fenrus02: ChibaPet, when precisely did you enable crypto in lvm? (04:12:53 PM) fenrus02: ChibaPet, in the middle of your storage of actual data or was it really prior to that event? (04:13:15 PM) ChibaPet: Use Google, fenrus03. (04:13:27 PM) ChibaPet: He was talking about an installer. (04:13:29 PM) fenrus02: ChibaPet, flat out, you are wrong chia (04:13:48 PM) fenrus02: ChibaPet, the installer is not the same as installing kde post install (04:13:49 PM) uckelman: talisein: Is this a common problem? I thought it would be handled by the screens having a different DPI. (04:14:27 PM) fenrus02: ChibaPet, i am quite familiar with how the installer works as well. feel free to ask actual questions that an end user may have. for other questions, there are other channels. (04:14:29 PM) ChibaPet: Fenrus, I'm sorry about whatever is making you act this way, and I hope it gets better. If you want, I can try to find some resources for you. (04:14:29 PM) talisein: uckelman, I'm not qualified to answer that. But when I put my laptop in a dock I only need to change the resolution, not the font (04:15:05 PM) WebDragon: fenrus02 happens to be a long-term member here, ChibaPet, just FYI (04:15:16 PM) mode (+q ChibaPet!*@*) by fedbot (04:15:17 PM) fedbot: ChibaPet, You have been quieted in this channel temporarily. Please read http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Channel_FAQ and consider changing your approach and/or the behavior that is disrupting the channel. If you feel this action was in error, please file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ (04:15:40 PM) uckelman: talisein: Thanks for your help. I'll try adding launchers for font-size switching. (04:16:01 PM) fenrus02: hush now ChibaPet enough trolling. come back when you have an actual end-user question about fedora. see /topic for details So, this was my first experience with #fedora, and probably my last if you allow people like this to take their anger out on people. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/47> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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Plan for tomorrow's irc support sig meeting (2011-05-05)
by Robert 'Bob' Jensen 05 May '11

05 May '11

Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2011-05-05) meeting, which will be held at 17:00UTC/13:00Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. I will not be available for the meeting, nirik will cover for me, thank you Kevin. Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in the "open floor" section of the meeting. #topic Week in review http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html #topic feedback tickets https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 -- Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Robert 'Bob' Jensen || Fedora Unity Founder | | bob(a)fedoraunity.org || http://fedoraunity.org/ | | http://bjensen.fedorapeople.org/ | | http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen | | http://www.facebook.com/rpjensen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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