irc-support-sig August 2012

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[irc-support-sig] #125: RFE: how to file a trac ticket
by fedora-badges 23 Aug '13

23 Aug '13

#125: RFE: how to file a trac ticket -----------------------+------------------------ Reporter: ankursinha | Owner: Type: meeting | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 14 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | -----------------------+------------------------ = phenomenon = The initial draft on "How to file a trac ticket" is here: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha/How_to_file_a_trac_ticket]. Please provide suggestions on how to make this page more helpful to newcomers. Thanks,[[BR]] FranciscoD -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/125> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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[irc-support-sig] #107: Mass Removal Of Stagnant Voting Members
by fedora-badges 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

#107: Mass Removal Of Stagnant Voting Members ---------------------+------------------------ Reporter: dcr226 | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 14 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ---------------------+------------------------ I was going to do these individually, but it will just turn into spam, and on the most part this is a no-brainer. I propose the removal of the following members of the sig, on the basis they carry a vote currently..but may not be active, or interested in the sig. ausil, bit4man, deepsa, ivazquez, jkeating, jsmith, jsteffan, mkearey, pfrields, wtogami, kanarip I guess the simple thing is, if you agree with the removal, vote with "+1", if you disagree with it all "-1", and if you disagree with one (or more particular user's removal "-1 <username>" Otherwise this thread could easily turn into 10 threads and get unnecessarily messy. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/107> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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IRC SIG Banner and Member Icons
by Randall Berry 29 Aug '12

29 Aug '12

Some time back I filed a ticket for the design team to come up with some banners for the IRC SIG pages as well as some icons for member pages. Yesterday I got a reply. If you have any ideas that you would like to see please post your comments and ideas here: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/235 Thanks, Randy Berry, N3LRX fas: Dp67

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[irc-support-sig] #126: very unfriendly and harsh attitude
by fedora-badges 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

#126: very unfriendly and harsh attitude ---------------------+------------------------ Reporter: adamt | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 14 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ---------------------+------------------------ Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [ ] Positive [X] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is: adamt Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: i asked a question, and was met with rather a lot of repeated hostility from EvilBob. One thing is to ask people to read the manual, another is to repeatedly do it in a way that insinuates that the user is a moron. Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: EvilBob Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: Teaching EvilBob about basic good behaviour. Any additional notes or logs: <adamt> Hi, using f17, is anybody aware of an easy way of installing the git contrib things? <FranciscoD> adamt: git contrib things? * ciupicri has quit (Quit: Leaving.) <EvilBob> adamt: man yum * ikonia (~irc@unaffiliated/ikonia) has joined #fedora <EvilBob> adamt: read about groups, listing and installing them <adamt> EvilBob, that hardly helps if the software isn't available in the official repos in the first place. <muep> what software are you looking for? <EvilBob> It isn't? <adamt> FranciscoD, https://github.com/apenwarr/git-subtree/blob/master /THIS-REPO-IS-OBSOLETE talks about git-subtree being included in v. 1.7.11, but only in the contrib subtree, and it doesn't seem to be included in the official git packages for f17 <EvilBob> You've yet to be clear EXACTLY what you are looking for so you've hardly helped anyone help you * dayangkun has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) <FranciscoD> adamt: someone will have to package them up, if they arent in the repos <adamt> so i'm asking whether anybody made another git package that contains that. <adamt> (or know of anybody who did, etc.) <fedbot> Hey, we want to make the channel better. How about dropping us a note and let us know how you feel the channel is doing, good or bad and give feedback about users or issues also. https://fedorahosted.org/irc- support-sig/ (Tickets reviewed weekly) <muep> adamt: you might file a bug if some important content from the upstream git sources is not included in fedora packages <FranciscoD> muep: ++ * sayan has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <FranciscoD> adamt: yum list git* gives me quite a few packages, had a look at them? <EvilBob> /usr/share/doc/git-1.7.11.4/contrib/subtree/git-subtree.sh * netsjanek (~janek(a)metroeth-nat34.217.146.194.generacja.pl) has joined #fedora <adamt> Oho. * amessina has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!) <adamt> Seems rather weird it ended up in ../doc/.. but thanks for finding that. <EvilBob> Whatever <adamt> It take it my lack of smileys have fostered an unfriendly atmosphere. * triad has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * Deathvalley122 has quit (Excess Flood) <adamt> *I <EvilBob> read the man page for yum <EvilBob> learn to use the tools so others don't have to do it for you. <adamt> How is this a yum issue? <EvilBob> It's not a yum issue, it's a user issue * amessina (~amessina@2001:470:c1dc:7779:d6be:d9ff:fe8d:7c1e) has joined #fedora <EvilBob> and the user is you <adamt> Considering the script was probably included in some documentation dir by accident, and actually isn't installed, i really don't get why you're so unfriendly towards me and my original question. <muep> yum has search functions which could have been used to find the subtree stuff <EvilBob> read the man page for yum <EvilBob> learn to use the tools so others don't have to do it for you. <muep> sometimes scripts are intentionally provided just as documentation and not as easily accessible programs <adamt> rtfm isn't a nice answer, you could just have said "yum can search for files, check the man-page to get going", and everybody would have been happy. <EvilBob> It's hardly helpful to spout off that something is hardly helpful when you have not even bothered to look on your own <EvilBob> adamt: I did <EvilBob> <EvilBob> adamt: man yum <EvilBob> <EvilBob> adamt: read about groups, listing and installing them <EvilBob> that was based on your initially vague query <adamt> Ok i'm going to be the bigger man, thank you for finding the script. <EvilBob> whatever <EvilBob> read the man page for yum Thanks for your feedback! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/126> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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Plan for tomorrow's irc support sig meeting (2012-08-23)
by Kevin Fenzi 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2012-08-23) meeting, which will be held at 17:00UTC/13:00 Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in the "open floor" section of the meeting. #topic Week in review http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html #topic ticket 125 - RFC: how to file a trac ticket #topic Open Floor kevin

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Plan for tomorrow's irc support sig meeting (2012-08-09)
by Kevin Fenzi 08 Aug '12

08 Aug '12

Here's what I have for an agenda for tomorrow's (2012-08-09) meeting, which will be held at 17:00UTC/13:00 Eastern in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Feel free to reply to this with additional topics, or bring them up in the "open floor" section of the meeting. #topic Week in review http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html #topic Open Floor kevin

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[irc-support-sig] #118: Invite FranciscoD to #fedora-ops
by fedora-badges 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

#118: Invite FranciscoD to #fedora-ops -------------------------------+------------------------ Reporter: dcr226 | Owner: Type: #fedora-ops invite | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 16 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | -------------------------------+------------------------ I would like to invite FranciscoD into #fedora-ops, he's active on the channel (#fedora) plenty, and offers good and polite help. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/118> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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[irc-support-sig] #123: not being felt welcomed in IRC, might not come back
by fedora-badges 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

#123: not being felt welcomed in IRC, might not come back ---------------------+----------------------- Reporter: tigz | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Version: | Severity: Negative Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ---------------------+----------------------- Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [ ] Positive [X] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is: Tigz Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: had an issue and user whom i found out later was an OP was not welcoming and very dismissive. I'm thinking of not coming back. Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction: Discordian Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: Discordian's attitude is not one of what an OP should be, Discordian might have a wealth of knowledge but doesn't seem to have the disposition or character to be able to be an OP, regardsless of this his attitude should be more welcoming towards others even as a normal user. Any additional notes or logs: conversation as follows: igz: caravel: no good, still the same Tigz: i did try and get the error with no luck but it executes at the following point - oldwzd has disconnected (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) - mtk has joined the room Tigz: GRUB loading Tigz: Welcome to GRUB! caravel: Tigz: you said the "version" of grub was different to what you had before ? Tigz: then Error: Tigz: in the file the one I uploaded to the one it replaced when re- installing it was different the new one looked like yours my old one didn't have half of the information in it - Wharncliffe has disconnected (Quit: Lost terminal) Tigz: but to get my old one i had to run the grub-install command from the cd within rescue mode for fedora caravel: ok, did you "reinstall" grub onto your disk/mbr after that ? (not the package, but using the command from grub2 package...) - searcher has disconnected (Quit: Leaving.) Tigz: cause the open suse grub version 0.97 overwritten it caravel: ok Tigz: no.... - did i miss a step Discordian: Err right Discordian: so now you are on grub1 - oldwzd has joined the room caravel: Tigz: that's what I call a stupid "distro boot loader war", none are designed to "share" a given grub install Discordian: not grub2 Tigz: no fedora's grub 2 Tigz: text mode of fedora says GNU GRUB 2.00~beta4 * caravel isn't following :-) Tigz: ok installed fedora 17 Tigz: then installed opensuse 12.1 Tigz: i didn't realise that suse was grub 1 Tigz: and overwritten the grub so all i could get was suse Tigz: to rectify i found out that fedora is grub 2 Tigz: so to fix i found an article about fixing issues in fedora by using the rescue mode - amessina has joined the room Discordian: I see a mess of fail * caravel install grub into the first sector of each (respective cf. distro) /boot partition, then uses a "neutral" grub loader that "chainloads" others. One way of solving this... Tigz: i did this and used the grub-install /dev/sda to get fedora to work and add suse later Discordian: when you stop messing around maybe you can be helped Tigz: sorry trying to catch up caravel as he was confussed - supervacuo has joined the room caravel: thanks, it's clearer indeed :-) Discordian: Is there a Fedora issue here tigz? blami_: i think it is - user experience Tigz: yes both systems are listed in fedora's grub 2, but the grub is in text mode i can tell cause it has all the information about pressing c for command line Tigz: all i want is to get it back to graphical mode caravel: Tigz: I'd suggest you try the solution I described here above : that's the end of such "distro war" : each one will then nicely be able to update its own grub and so on caravel: (but that might still need a fix cf. graphic mode indeed) Discordian: You know multi-booting requires skills Discordian: You seem to lack those caravel: Tigz: did you run vbeinfo from Fedora grub2 cli, as I suggested before ? Discordian: why don't you just do one os - wolfbyte has disconnected (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) Tigz: i have basic sys admin skills Tigz: my main system is windows - jo-erlend has disconnected (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) Tigz: its the advance linux stuff i sometimes have issues with Tigz: cause it takes me longer to figure it out Discordian: why then are you trying to multiboot linux? - jo-erlend has joined the room Tigz: because im trying to find a distro to setup a honeypot and IDS Discordian: stick with one linux distro and use that Tigz: and linux might be better suited for my needs with the equipment i have to use for it Discordian: ... Discordian: Is there some reason I should spend time helping you ? Discordian: You don't seem committed to Fedora Tigz: because the honeypot and IDS was going on fedora opensuse was just going to be a play system unaltered Discordian: .mw * Discordian sighs Discordian: You should learn one distro blami_: Discordian: why? oldwzd: actually he should learn them all, then decide what he likes and stick to it.. XD Tigz: noone said you had to help, i just thought someone might want to - spybert has disconnected (Quit: Leaving) mosno: "all"? lol Discordian: or what oldwzd said blami_: Tigz: the best approach to do what you want without pain is what caravel said - gaurdro has joined the room Discordian: however the keyword is *learn* Tigz: oldwzd: thanks but each person says that they prefer a different one and I have to work out which one is better and etc. Tigz: I can learn multiple distro's at once just fine thanks Discordian: clearly - sayan has joined the room - arkiver has disconnected (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) Discordian: I'm reasonably sure opensuse current uses grub2 not grub1 Tigz: most of this i can work out just fine without help, i just wanted not to spend a few days working it out - arkiver has joined the room Tigz: thats not what my installed distro said - bodhizazen has joined the room Tigz: but hell what do i know ima windows man blami_: Tigz: 11.3 in my case uses grub1 oldwzd: i dont use dualboot anymore, as i see no use of windows exept for gaming pleasure (also a lot of headake due to that os and buggs that end up messing with the gaming) Tigz: oldwzd: thanks i understand, but this is all learning as being self taught in most things im trying to get systems up at home to learn and advance my career. caravel: Tigz: consider what I suggested : within each distro, just install grub into /dev/sdaX where X is your /boot part. Then, from Fedora, install yet a third grub onto your MBR or its own partition also, as you wish, as a "neutral" grub loader. That last one will get a very simple menu to "chainload" all your OSs - MStoykov has joined the room muep: Tigz: I have used a scheme similar to what caravel recommends. I'd recommend it too Tigz: caravel: thanks i think i understand, i was able to fix the last boot issue with 3 seperate OS none fedora nor open suse, i change os's and it falls in a heap Tigz: talking to you caravel i found that i screwed up like i thought and will have to redo my system Discordian: Chainload is good Tigz: all i need to work out is the right way to do it. blami_: Tigz: what caravel says will work also for kernel updates in all distros installed caravel: Tigz: here is (an extract of...) my "neutral" boot loader : http://fpaste.org/4bzm/ I have generated it manually, then hacked it manually. I only change it whenever I need to add or remove a new distro to chainload caravel: Tigz: please note that mine might look a little more complex that what you may need, since I have 2 volume groups (LVM) : one is a standard one and contains one LV per /boot partition, another one is encrypted as a whole (LUKS) and contains one LV per /root partition plus swaps and data caravel: so, it's all encrypted "as much as possible" (boot parts can't yet be AFAIK), it's my own approach of things :-) - Arbition has disconnected (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) Tigz: very nice caravel. caravel: doing so, cf. the stanzas I left in what I uploaded on fpaste, for example, F14 was very happy to keep updating its grub until it got EOL, while F16 was very happy too with its distinct version and configs :-D caravel: yes, even distinct Fedora versions can "fight" for grub, of course... I later went to the ##fedora-ops channel and got more attitude from Discordian there when i went to discuss this issue. so far my first day in the Fedora channels have not been good. Thanks for your feedback! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/123> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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[irc-support-sig] #122: #fedora irc bot requests feedback too often
by fedora-badges 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

#122: #fedora irc bot requests feedback too often -----------------------+------------------------ Reporter: nukeawhale | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: minor | Milestone: Fedora 14 Version: | Severity: Neutral Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | -----------------------+------------------------ Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [ ] Positive [x] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is: Raydiation The bot is regularly asking for feedback which happens too often in my opinion I think the most important thing in the channel are the users and how the interact with each other. I dont think changing anything in the channel would help. If you still want feedback Id recommend putting it into the topic. The bot messages are too frequently IMHO and steal my attention. I remember #fedora being kinda mean towards newcomers who often ask simple questions. This has fortunately changed and the channel has become really nice. It would be good to keep things nice and friendly and to act if it gets out of control to keep a good atmosphere. -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/122> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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[irc-support-sig] #124: Uban request
by fedora-badges 02 Aug '12

02 Aug '12

#124: Uban request ---------------------+------------------------ Reporter: ozborne | Owner: Type: feedback | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 16 Version: | Severity: Positive Keywords: | Blocked By: Blocking: | ---------------------+------------------------ Please fill in this template fully and provide all requested information. Incomplete tickets may be dropped. This feedback is: {{{ [x] Positive [ ] Negative [ ] Neutral }}} My IRC nick is:''OzBorne'' Please briefly describe the interaction that caused you to file this ticket: ''I am banned from sometimes now from #fedora and social and i request to be free. I apologize for the trolling i commit in these chan and i abide the rules from now. Some people were not helpful to behave and very elitist pushing you to your limits - see below.'' Please note other IRC nicks that are involved in this interaction:''EvilBob'' Please describe what action or positive change could be adopted based on this feedback: '' Unban OzBorne from #fedora and #fedora-social.'' ''Ignore EvilBob'' Any additional notes or logs: NONE Thanks for your feedback! -- Ticket URL: <https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/124> irc-support-sig <irc://irc.freenode.net/#fedora> Feedback and tracking of issues for the folks who try and improve support in #fedora on irc.freenode.net

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