desktop December 2004

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How do I add a new window manager?
by John S. Yates, Jr. 25 Jan '05

25 Jan '05

I would like to play with WMI ( wmi.modprobe.de ). I have gotten it to build on amd64 and can launch it from the failsafe prompt. What do I have to do to make it an available session type?

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Professionalism
by chapmanccc＠juno.com 10 Jan '05

10 Jan '05

To the developers, The Linux operating system is maturing and we all hope that it will be a major contender in the home and business markets. As it approaches this goal, the customer base changes. Linux is no longer the "geek OS" it once was. Where once the predominant profile of a Linux user was a young male, you now find fathers and husbands (I am both), women (I am married to one) and children (I have three). Linux is my main OS at home and my wife and oldest child also use it. With this evolution, a level of professionalism must also take place. Being that the Fedora project is one of the leading consumer Linux distributions, I would hope the developers would want to 'lead the pack' in this area. This brings me to my point. I was rather disappointed with the content in the "WebCollage" and "Barcode" screensavers. These screensavers have since been manually removed from my system, but I would have preferred them not to be installed by default. When I install Mac OS or Windows, garbage like this is not included. Why? Because the developers strive to build a professional product. Yes, I can install items like this with Mac OS or Windows, but I would need to download or purchase them after installing the OS. Developers, please be considerate when creating the Fedora distributions and let's strive to make Linux as professional as possible. Thank you, Chris ________________________________________________________________ Juno Platinum $9.95. Juno SpeedBand $14.95. Sign up for Juno Today at http://www.juno.com! Look for special offers at Best Buy stores.

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HPLaserjet 1010 and HPScanjet 2400U
by Sujith kumar 01 Jan '05

01 Jan '05

I am using Redhat 9. Can anybody tellme how I can make my HP Laserjet 1010 work on linux. Instead of printing the matter it is printing something like "Unsupported Personality". I have got some PPD files, I kept in /etc/cups/. but when I go to system setting --> printing, I am not able to choose PPDs as drivers. I have also HP Scanjet2400U scanner. Can any body tell me how to install the same. Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline.

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Lock screen dialog box
by Filip Sedivy 30 Dec '04

30 Dec '04

Hello. I was just wondering if there is any way hot get rid of the ugly dialog box (xscreensaver) when I loock the screen in default install of FC3. I wish it will look more professional like the blue login dialog. Thanks.

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Kernel issues
by M. 29 Dec '04

29 Dec '04

Hello all, I'm very much a newbie to Linux (running Fedora FC3 for 10 days) and there is an issue I have run into. The biggest problem I have is that for some reason my kernel doesn't update properly. My Fedora box is dual PPro running kernel 667smp, but I know kernel 681smp is out there for download and install. I run the GUI version of up2date and I always download and install all patches that are made available. For some reason kernel 681smp didn't install. So fine, I downloaded the rpm-package for kernel 681smp manually with FireFox, choosing the option to run it with the default application, but when FireFox has downloaded the package and starts the installer, the installer says kernel 681smp is already installed. Just to double-check I searched on the Internet and found this command "uname -r", which confirms I am running kernel 667smp. How do I force a reinstall or an update of the kernel to version 681smp? Thanks, Maurice.

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ESD output is garbled
by Rob Shinn 23 Dec '04

23 Dec '04

I've got Fedora Core 3 using kernel 2.6.9-1.667, the default one that ships with FC3. I have a SiS 735 chipset motherboard with an Athlon 1800+ XP, and 1 GB of DDR. FC3 detected my sound card as using the snd-intel8x0 driver, which is the driver I used on my last distro on the 2.4 kernel . The output for the card detection test was flawless. Output via ALSA and OSS work flawlessly as well. But any sounds output through ESD get garbled and 'staticky' sounding. This didn't happen on my last distro, which was Gentoo running a 2.4.22 kernel. Anyone got a clue?

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Fedora Project Mailing Lists reminder
by Elliot Lee 22 Dec '04

22 Dec '04

This is a reminder of the mailing lists for the Fedora Project, and the purpose of each list. You can view this information at http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/communicate/ When you're using these mailing lists, please take the time to choose the one that is most appropriate to your post. If you don't know the right mailing list to use for a question or discussion, please contact me. This will help you get the best possible answer for your question, and keep other list subscribers happy! Mailing Lists Mailing lists are email addresses which send email to all users subscribed to the mailing list. Sending an email to a mailing list reaches all users interested in discussing a specific topic and users available to help other users with the topic. The following mailing lists are available. To subscribe, send email to <listname>-request(a)redhat.com (replace <listname> with the desired mailing list name such as fedora-list) with the word subscribe in the subject. fedora-announce-list - Announcements of changes and events. To stay aware of news, subscribe to this list. fedora-list - For users of releases. If you want help with a problem installing or using , this is the list for you. fedora-test-list - For testers of test releases. If you would like to discuss experiences using TEST releases, this is the list for you. fedora-devel-list - For developers, developers, developers. If you are interested in helping create releases, this is the list for you. fedora-docs-list - For participants of the docs project fedora-desktop-list - For discussions about desktop issues such as user interfaces, artwork, and usability fedora-config-list - For discussions about the development of configuration tools fedora-tools-list - For discussions about the toolchain (gcc, gdb, etc...) within Fedora fedora-patches-list - For submitting patches to Fedora maintainers, and used in line with BugWeek fedora-legacy-announce - For announcements about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-legacy-list - For discussions about the Fedora Legacy Project fedora-selinux-list - For discussions about the Fedora SELinux Project fedora-marketing-list - For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base fedora-de-list - For discussions about Fedora in the German language fedora-es-list - For discussions about Fedora in the Spanish language fedora-ja-list - For discussions about Fedora in the Japanese language fedora-i18n-list - For discussions about the internationalization of Fedora Core fedora-trans-list - For discussions about translating the software and documentation associated with the Fedora Project German: fedora-trans-de French: fedora-trans-fr Spanish: fedora-trans-es Italian: fedora-trans-it Brazilian Portuguese: fedora-trans-pt_br Japanese: fedora-trans-ja Korean: fedora-trans-ko Simplified Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_cn Traditional Chinese: fedora-trans-zh_tw

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Fedora 3 on HP Pavillion zt3000?
by R. Kirk McPike 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

How compatible is Fedora Core 3 with this model? It's a Pentium M system with the 802.11b Intel wireless card (full Centrino system) and a 15.2" widescreen display and CD-RW/DVD-ROM drive. I'd like to try FC3, as I'm very impressed with everything I've read about it, but I'm fairly inexperienced with Linux (installed it a few times, played with it every now and then but never used it as a primary operating system), and I don't think I'd be able to get it up and running if a lot of low level work is involved... Thanks for any advice you all can provide. Kirk

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Default Panel Menu Setup
by Steven Garrity 20 Dec '04

20 Dec '04

Has any consideration been given to the menu configuration used by Ubuntu? Here's a screenshot (http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=152&slide=50), but basically what I'm wondering about is the two primary menus being "Applications" and "Computer" with the "Computer" menu including links to key locations (Home, Desktop, Disks, Network, Recent Documents) and other system activities (Prefs, config, screenshot, lock, log-out). Having seen Fedora, Novell Linux Desktop, and Ubuntu, I'm not even sure what the default Gnome menu configuration is anymore. I'm quite skeptical that the relatively minor variations between the major distros on these menu layout issues leave any one distribution with a better solution (especially now that Fedora is closer to the upstream Gnome setup). I understand that there is room for customization within distributions, but I'd love to see the best solution pushed upstream and adopted across the major distros. While I'm a Fedora Core 3 user myself, I think the default menu breakdown (shown/described above) is the best I've seen. Thanks, Steven Garrity

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Re: kde log out menu
by vampire janus 19 Dec '04

19 Dec '04

Thanks Rex =) I will try it as soon as I get hold of FC3 (which is really soon since someone from my office already have it). For the others, sorry that this is becoming a tips section. Maybe too newbie? But if it is possible to hack out kde to have this kind of logout menu eventhough the distro uses gdm I think that would be a great help to all others who are using kde in Fedora. Thanks and regards to you all =) > Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 04:03:18 -0600 (CST) > From: Rex Dieter <rdieter(a)math.unl.edu> > Subject: Re: kde log out menu > To: Discussions about development for the Fedora > desktop > <fedora-desktop-list(a)redhat.com> > Message-ID: > <Pine.LNX.4.61.0412190359430.7972(a)math.unl.edu> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; > format=flowed > > On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, vampire janus wrote: > > > In kde of FC2 (as well as Red Hat 7.1) when you > click > > the logout menu in the kmenu it will lead to two > > options- logout and cancel. I wish instead that > you > > have the options- restart, logout and shut down > just > > like what you see in gnome. > > That works if (and only if, AFAIK), you're using the > kdm login manager > (instead of gdm). To do that, put into > /etc/sysconfig desktop: > DISPLAYMANAGER=KDE > and then either reboot, or drop to runlevel 3 and > then back to 5 (simply > restarting X is not sufficient) > > -- Rex __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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