desktop July 2008

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Fedora 9 desktop problems
by landon kelsey 31 Jul '08

31 Jul '08

I have the very latest F9 and KDE 4 via yum update Yes I will send KDE problems to KDE! If I can differentiate since day 1 and existing now on boot 1-0:1.0 unable to enumerate USB device on hub # 2 1-0:1.0 unable to enumerate USB device on hub # 4 1-0:1.0 unable to enumerate USB device on hub # 2 problem : computer hangs occasionally usually connected to popups from panel items. Sometimes I can clear the hangup by hitting keys ctrl-alt but usually I have to unplug/replug the flash memory drive. I have a card that connects all USB 2.0 devices since my built-in USB is 1.1 Once upon a time NTFS and VFAT flash memory drive were mounted via entries in fstab. Then they went auto. Now I must open NTFS and VFAT flash memory drive via dolphin to mount them or else nothing will be able to see them! When installing F9, I used gnome for a while and the icons for NTFS and VFAT flash memory drive were at the upper left. This is probably in the KDE realm. _________________________________________________________________ Use video conversation to talk face-to-face with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/connect_your_way.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_W…

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Unexpected shutdown... what?
by Jesse Keating 26 Jul '08

26 Jul '08

Every single time I log out of gnome or shut down / reboot from the gnome menu a few of my apps act as if they were kill -9'd and throw up recovery messages that frighten/confuse users. Why? Why can't we as we log out/shut down 'cleanly' close these applications? Why must everything be 'dirty' upon login? -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!

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Freedesktop sound theming support
by Bastien Nocera 24 Jul '08

24 Jul '08

Heya, In tomorrow's Rawhide (or maybe the day after) will be support for the Freedesktop sound theme spec. This means that libcanberra will be pulled in as a dependency. So please, test the control-center's new sound theming support (see the "Sounds" tab). And file bugs against any application that might be using libgnome or their own thing to play sounds (apps that come to mind are gnome-phone-manager, Gossip and gnome-power-manager). Cheers

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new gnome-session
by Matthias Clasen 22 Jul '08

22 Jul '08

The next rawhide (whenever that may be) will have a new gnome-session that should fix many of the session management related issues that we've seen in rawhide lately. It has some pretty radical internal changes, though, so please give it a try and report any remaining or new issues. Thanks, Matthias

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Patch: timed progressbar for plymouth-plugin-spinfinity
by Will Woods 18 Jul '08

18 Jul '08

Hi, This proof-of-concept patch adds a simple progress bar to plymouth's "Spinfinity" plugin. The progress bar uses an estimate of boot time - defaulting to 45 seconds if unknown - and runs from 0% to 100% over that interval. Furthermore, the patch measures how long it takes to boot and writes that value to /etc/boottime at plugin shutdown. (This is kind of a nice side-effect - we get actual *measured* boot speed data, rather than just "feels snappier!") There's an associated script, update-boottime, that crams /etc/boottime into your initrd, so this splash plugin can use *that* to more closely approximate the time required to boot. This is similar to the OS X "WaitingForLoginWindow" process. It's an effective placebo - startup *seems* faster with the progress bar, even though it's exactly the same. You can enable it by adding 'timebar:1' to the boot commandline. This will make it run in linear-time mode - the progress bar moves linearly from 0% to 100%. Using 'timebar:2' modifies the percentage calculation to use an exponential function - this makes the bar run faster at first, then slow as it approaches 100%. This makes startup seem even faster. Seriously! The bar (and its implementation) are kind of ugly right now, but again - this is just a proof-of-concept. I think people get impatient with spinners after ~15s or so, so I think it's probably worth the effort to add something like this. Don't underestimate the *perceived* difference in startup speed - or at least the feeling that it's actually Doing Something during those ~40-50 seconds it takes system(s) to start. Try it yourself. See if you think it makes a difference. If people ask, I'll generate some binary packages of the 'timebar' plugin for people to test out, but I wanted to give you all a look at the code (and a chance to discuss the concept) first. -w

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Slowness getting back on network from resume
by Jesse Keating 15 Jul '08

15 Jul '08

This likely isn't any desktop component that is causing this, but I'd like to know what it is that makes getting back on wireless network after resuming from suspend take so long. I've bee comparing with Vista on my laptop just for giggles, and Vista is back on the wireless and FF even refreshes my gmail before I can get my password typed into the screen lock. This is all very very very fast. F9 on the other hand takes longer to get to the password dialog and then once unlocked it can still be another minute+ before NM starts the connection dance, another 30 seconds after that before wireless picks up again. Where is the delay? -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature!

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