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Release criteria proposal: networking requirements
by Adam Williamson 01 Mar '22

01 Mar '22

Hi folks! So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in under other criteria, but for some issues that's really difficult, notably VPN issues. So, we agreed we should draft some explicit networking criteria. This turns out to be a big area and quite hard to cover (who'd've thought!), but here is at least a first draft for us to start from. My proposal would be to add this to the Basic criteria. I have left out some wikitext stuff from the proposal for clarity; I'd add it back in on actually applying the proposed changes. It's just formatting stuff, nothing that'd change the meaning. Anyone have thoughts, complaints, alternative approaches, supplements? Thanks! === Network requirements === Each of these requirements apply to both installer and installed system environments. For any given installer environment, the 'default network configuration tools' are considered to be those the installer documents as supported ways to configure networking (e.g. for anaconda-based environments, configuration via kernel command line options, a kickstart, or interactively in anaconda itself are included). ==== Basic networking ==== It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must work well enough to allow typical network connection configuration operations without major workarounds. Standard network functions such as address resolution and connections with common protocols such as ping, HTTP and ssh must work as expected. Footnote titled "Supported hardware": Supported network hardware is hardware for which the Fedora kernel includes drivers and, where necessary, for which a firmware package is available. If support for a commonly-used piece or type of network hardware that would usually be present is omitted, that may constitute a violation of this criterion, after consideration of the [[Blocker_Bug_FAQ|hardware-dependent- issues|normal factors for hardware-dependent issues]]. Similarly, violations of this criteria that are hardware or configuration dependent are, as usual, subject to consideration of those factors when determining whether they are release-blocking ==== VPN connections ==== Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops, it must be possible to establish a working connection to common OpenVPN, openconnect-supported and vpnc-supported VNC servers with typical configurations. Footnote title "Supported servers and configurations": As there are many different VPN server applications and configurations, blocker reviewers must use their best judgment in determining whether violations of this criterion are likely to be encountered commonly enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more likely it is to be a blocker. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-07-28
by Chris Murphy 28 Jul '21

28 Jul '21

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-07-28) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 02:57:17 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-07-29/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 02:57:34) * present: Matthias, Neal, Chris (secr), Allan, Jens, Michael, Owen, Tomas (cmurf, 02:57:36) * regrets: Kalev (cmurf, 02:57:38) * present guests: Felipe, Lennart Poettering, Davide (cmurf, 02:57:40) * Approval of July 13 minutes (cmurf, 02:57:42) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-07-13-… (cmurf, 02:57:44) * AGREED: Approved - no objections (cmurf, 02:57:46) * Announcements, Status Reports (cmurf, 02:57:48) * Encryption of user data (excludes system) (cmurf, 02:57:58) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/82 (cmurf, 02:58:00) * AGREED: meeting adjourned (cmurf, 02:59:32) Meeting ended at 03:03:20 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (64) * zodbot (7) * Neal (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2021-07-28 Meeting Agenda (Secretary: Kalev)
by Neal Gompa 27 Jul '21

27 Jul '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-07-28 9:30 AM EDT 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of July 13 minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-07-13-… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Encryption of user data (excludes system) + Lennart Poettering coming to talk about systemd-homed https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/82 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG: Special Wednesday Meeting!
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG: Special Wednesday Meeting! on 2021-07-28 from 08:30:00 to 09:30:00 US/Central At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Special Wednesday meeting for the Workstation Working Group. (No meeting on Tuesday, July 27.) Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10042/

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2021-07-20 Meeting Agenda (Secretary: Kalev)
by Neal Gompa 20 Jul '21

20 Jul '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-07-20 9:30 AM EDT 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of July 13 minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-07-13-… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 19 Jul '21

19 Jul '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-07-20 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10022/

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-07-13
by Chris Murphy 13 Jul '21

13 Jul '21

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-07-13) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 17:40:27 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-07-13/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 17:40:48) * present: Matthias, Neal, Chris, Tomas, Jens, Michael, Allan (secr.), Owen (cmurf, 17:40:50) * regrets: (cmurf, 17:40:52) * present guests: James Cassell (cmurf, 17:40:54) * Approval of June 29 minutes (cmurf, 17:40:56) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-06-30-… (cmurf, 17:40:58) * AGREED: Approved - no objections (cmurf, 17:41:00) * Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (cmurf, 17:41:02) * GNOME UI freeze is 14 August - nearly 4 weeks away. 41.alpha is due out soon, too. (cmurf, 17:41:04) * Owen has created 2 change proposals for F35. Some questions about Flathub in the mailing list discussion. It looks like it's going to be approved. (cmurf, 17:41:08) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2641 (cmurf, 17:41:10) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2643 (cmurf, 17:41:12) * Workstation web presence goals (cmurf, 17:41:16) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/220 (cmurf, 17:41:18) * AGREED: Deferred - no updates (cmurf, 17:41:20) * homed (cmurf, 17:41:22) * ACTION: Matthias to send an invite for 28 July at 13:30 UTC (cmurf, 17:41:26) * Review F35 change proposal: Rebase firewalld to upstream v1.0.0 (cmurf, 17:41:28) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/234 (cmurf, 17:41:30) * AGREED: The change proposal doesn't affect us. \o/ (cmurf, 17:41:32) * Open floor (cmurf, 17:41:34) * Please report oomd related bugs or confusion against systemd component, and cc: relevant people (cmurf, 17:41:40) Meeting ended at 17:42:08 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Matthias to send an invite for 28 July at 13:30 UTC Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Matthias to send an invite for 28 July at 13:30 UTC People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (31) * zodbot (7) * Neal (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2021-07-13 Meeting Agenda (Secretary: Allan)
by Neal Gompa 13 Jul '21

13 Jul '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-07-13 9:30 AM EDT 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of June 29 minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-06-30-… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Workstation web presence goals https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/220 Review F35 change proposal: Rebase firewalld to upstream v1.0.0 https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/234 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 12 Jul '21

12 Jul '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-07-13 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10022/

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 07 Jul '21

07 Jul '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-06-29 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9884/

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