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Release criteria proposal: networking requirements
by Adam Williamson 01 Mar '22

01 Mar '22

Hi folks! So at this week's blocker review meeting, the fact that we don't have explicit networking requirements in the release criteria really started to bite us. In the past we have squeezed networking-related issues in under other criteria, but for some issues that's really difficult, notably VPN issues. So, we agreed we should draft some explicit networking criteria. This turns out to be a big area and quite hard to cover (who'd've thought!), but here is at least a first draft for us to start from. My proposal would be to add this to the Basic criteria. I have left out some wikitext stuff from the proposal for clarity; I'd add it back in on actually applying the proposed changes. It's just formatting stuff, nothing that'd change the meaning. Anyone have thoughts, complaints, alternative approaches, supplements? Thanks! === Network requirements === Each of these requirements apply to both installer and installed system environments. For any given installer environment, the 'default network configuration tools' are considered to be those the installer documents as supported ways to configure networking (e.g. for anaconda-based environments, configuration via kernel command line options, a kickstart, or interactively in anaconda itself are included). ==== Basic networking ==== It must be possible to establish both IPv4 and IPv6 network connections using DHCP and static addressing. The default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops must work well enough to allow typical network connection configuration operations without major workarounds. Standard network functions such as address resolution and connections with common protocols such as ping, HTTP and ssh must work as expected. Footnote titled "Supported hardware": Supported network hardware is hardware for which the Fedora kernel includes drivers and, where necessary, for which a firmware package is available. If support for a commonly-used piece or type of network hardware that would usually be present is omitted, that may constitute a violation of this criterion, after consideration of the [[Blocker_Bug_FAQ|hardware-dependent- issues|normal factors for hardware-dependent issues]]. Similarly, violations of this criteria that are hardware or configuration dependent are, as usual, subject to consideration of those factors when determining whether they are release-blocking ==== VPN connections ==== Using the default network configuration tools for the console and for release-blocking desktops, it must be possible to establish a working connection to common OpenVPN, openconnect-supported and vpnc-supported VNC servers with typical configurations. Footnote title "Supported servers and configurations": As there are many different VPN server applications and configurations, blocker reviewers must use their best judgment in determining whether violations of this criterion are likely to be encountered commonly enough to block a release, and if so, at which milestone. As a general principle, the more people are likely to use affected servers and the less complicated the configuration required to hit the bug, the more likely it is to be a blocker. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Default wallpaper for Fedora 35 Release avail for testing
by Luya Tshimbalanga 01 Oct '21

01 Oct '21

Hello everyone, A new version of default time of day wallpaper for Fedora 35 is available for testing and ready for the applications like Software needed to display the availability of Fedora 35. Link: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-0d3eae84ae Let know if there are some issues needed to address before the final freeze on October 4. Regards, -- Luya Tshimbalanga Fedora Design Team Fedora Design Suite maintainer

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2021-09-28 Meeting Agenda (Secretary: Jens)
by Neal Gompa 27 Sep '21

27 Sep '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-09-28 9:30 AM EDT 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of September 21 minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-09-21-… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Documentation issues for Workstation contributors https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/225 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 27 Sep '21

27 Sep '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-09-28 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10041/

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-09-21
by Chris Murphy 21 Sep '21

21 Sep '21

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-09-21) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 17:49:55 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-09-21/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 17:50:08) * present: Chris, Allan, Neal, Kalev, Michael, Owen (cmurf, 17:50:10) * regrets: Mattias, Tomáš (cmurf, 17:50:12) * present guests: Felipe (cmurf, 17:50:14) * What's new in Fedora 35? (cmurf, 17:50:16) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/240 (cmurf, 17:50:18) * LINK: https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/41.0/ (cmurf, 17:50:20) * Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (cmurf, 17:50:40) * Open Floor (cmurf, 17:50:44) * Approval of September 14 minutes (cmurf, 17:50:48) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-09-18-… (cmurf, 17:50:50) * AGREED: no objections (cmurf, 17:50:52) Meeting ended at 17:50:59 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (27) * zodbot (7) * : (0) * Neal (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.3 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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2021-09-21 Meeting Agenda (Secretary: Chris)
by Neal Gompa 20 Sep '21

20 Sep '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-09-21 9:30 AM EDT 13:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of September 14 minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/workstation/workstation.2021-09-18-… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports What's new in Fedora 35? https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/240 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 20 Sep '21

20 Sep '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-09-21 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10041/

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Re: Fedora-Rawhide-20210917.n.1 compose check report
by Luna Jernberg 18 Sep '21

18 Sep '21

g-i-s works again with this compose :) On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 4:28 AM Fedora compose checker < rawhide(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Missing expected images: > > Xfce raw-xz armhfp > > Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! > 8 of 43 required tests failed, 5 results missing > openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with > **GATING** below > Unsatisfied gating requirements that could not be mapped to openQA tests: > MISSING: fedora.Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2.x86_64.64bit - > compose.cloud_autocloud > > Failed openQA tests: 18/206 (x86_64), 19/141 (aarch64) > > New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20210916.n.0): > > ID: 988526 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso > server_role_deploy_database_server **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988526 > ID: 988540 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_database_client > **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988540 > ID: 988608 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 > base_services_start@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988608 > ID: 988628 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso > install_blivet_btrfs_preserve_home_uefi@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988628 > ID: 988722 Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_server_domain_controller > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988722 > ID: 988747 Test: x86_64 universal install_multi **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988747 > ID: 988798 Test: aarch64 universal install_blivet_btrfs@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988798 > ID: 988810 Test: aarch64 universal install_multi_empty@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988810 > > Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20210916.n.0): > > ID: 988517 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso > server_freeipa_replication_master > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988517 > ID: 988527 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso > server_role_deploy_domain_controller **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988527 > ID: 988530 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso > server_freeipa_replication_replica > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988530 > ID: 988534 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso > server_freeipa_replication_client > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988534 > ID: 988536 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_cockpit > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988536 > ID: 988537 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_realmd_join_kickstart > **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988537 > ID: 988539 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_sssd **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988539 > ID: 988572 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988572 > ID: 988573 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default_upload **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988573 > ID: 988642 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso > server_freeipa_replication_master@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988642 > ID: 988655 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso > server_role_deploy_domain_controller@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988655 > ID: 988659 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso > server_freeipa_replication_replica@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988659 > ID: 988660 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso > server_realmd_join_kickstart@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988660 > ID: 988665 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_cockpit@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988665 > ID: 988666 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso > server_freeipa_replication_client@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988666 > ID: 988668 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_basic@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988668 > ID: 988669 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso realmd_join_sssd@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988669 > ID: 988732 Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_domain_controller > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988732 > ID: 988733 Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988733 > ID: 988763 Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988763 > ID: 988781 Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_realmd_client > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988781 > ID: 988791 Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_minimal_64bit@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988791 > ID: 988796 Test: aarch64 universal > upgrade_server_domain_controller@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988796 > ID: 988797 Test: aarch64 universal install_asian_language@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988797 > ID: 988807 Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_realmd_client@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988807 > ID: 988818 Test: aarch64 universal > upgrade_2_server_domain_controller@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988818 > ID: 988829 Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_2_realmd_client@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988829 > ID: 988836 Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz > desktop_browser@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988836 > ID: 988843 Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz gedit@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988843 > > Soft failed openQA tests: 6/206 (x86_64), 4/141 (aarch64) > (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) > > New soft failures (same test not soft failed in > Fedora-Rawhide-20210916.n.0): > > ID: 988555 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988555 > ID: 988593 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso evince > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988593 > ID: 988594 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso gedit > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988594 > > Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20210916.n.0): > > ID: 988551 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso gedit > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988551 > ID: 988605 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988605 > ID: 988614 Test: aarch64 Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz > install_arm_image_deployment_upload@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988614 > ID: 988671 Test: aarch64 Server-raw_xz-raw.xz > install_arm_image_deployment_upload@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988671 > ID: 988698 Test: aarch64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988698 > ID: 988731 Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_server_64bit > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988731 > ID: 988785 Test: aarch64 universal upgrade_server_64bit@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988785 > > Passed openQA tests: 166/206 (x86_64), 118/141 (aarch64) > > New passes (same test not passed in Fedora-Rawhide-20210916.n.0): > > ID: 988546 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988546 > ID: 988548 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988548 > ID: 988590 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988590 > ID: 988592 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso > install_default_upload > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988592 > ID: 988595 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso > release_identification > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988595 > ID: 988596 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso > base_service_manipulation > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988596 > ID: 988597 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso desktop_background > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988597 > ID: 988598 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso base_services_start > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988598 > ID: 988599 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso base_selinux > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988599 > ID: 988600 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso base_reboot_unmount > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988600 > ID: 988601 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso base_system_logging > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988601 > ID: 988602 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso desktop_browser > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988602 > ID: 988603 Test: x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso desktop_terminal > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988603 > ID: 988604 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 base_selinux@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988604 > ID: 988612 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 > base_package_install_remove@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988612 > ID: 988765 Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_software_raid@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988765 > ID: 988768 Test: x86_64 universal install_kickstart_hdd > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988768 > ID: 988777 Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_minimal_uefi@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988777 > ID: 988794 Test: aarch64 universal > install_repository_http_variation@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988794 > ID: 988832 Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz > install_arm_image_deployment_upload@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988832 > ID: 988838 Test: aarch64 Workstation-raw_xz-raw.xz > desktop_printing@uefi > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988838 > > Skipped gating openQA tests: 4/206 (x86_64) > > Old skipped gating tests (same test skipped in > Fedora-Rawhide-20210916.n.0): > > ID: 988583 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_terminal **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988583 > ID: 988586 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso base_system_logging **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988586 > ID: 988587 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_browser **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988587 > ID: 988588 Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso base_update_cli **GATING** > URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988588 > > Skipped non-gating openQA tests: 12 of 347 > > Installed system changes in test x86_64 Server-boot-iso > install_default@uefi: > System load changed from 0.07 to 0.19 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984547#downloads > Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988486#downloads > > Installed system changes in test x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default@uefi: > > Used mem changed from 196 MiB to 240 MiB > 1 packages(s) added since previous compose: openssl1.1 > System load changed from 0.10 to 0.33 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984569#downloads > Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988491#downloads > > Installed system changes in test x86_64 Server-dvd-iso > install_default_upload: > Used mem changed from 192 MiB to 231 MiB > 1 packages(s) added since previous compose: openssl1.1 > System load changed from 0.18 to 0.38 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984566#downloads > Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988504#downloads > > Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso > install_default@uefi: > 2 packages(s) added since previous compose: openssl1.1, > xdg-desktop-portal-gnome > 1 services(s) added since previous compose: geoclue.service > System load changed from 0.60 to 1.01 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984608#downloads > Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988546#downloads > > Installed system changes in test x86_64 Workstation-live-iso > install_default_upload: > Used swap changed from 3 MiB to 5 MiB > 2 packages(s) added since previous compose: openssl1.1, > xdg-desktop-portal-gnome > 1 services(s) added since previous compose: geoclue.service > System load changed from 0.57 to 0.95 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984609#downloads > Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988548#downloads > > Installed system changes in test x86_64 Silverblue-dvd_ostree-iso > install_default@uefi: > 1 services(s) added since previous compose: geoclue.service > System load changed from 0.45 to 1.29 > Average CPU usage changed from 8.69523810 to 33.58571429 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984652#downloads > Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988590#downloads > > Installed system changes in test aarch64 Server-dvd-iso > install_default_upload@uefi: > Used mem changed from 199 MiB to 229 MiB > 1 packages(s) added since previous compose: openssl1.1 > System load changed from 0.18 to 0.43 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984702#downloads > Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988637#downloads > > Installed system changes in test x86_64 universal install_package_set_kde: > Used swap changed from 1 MiB to 5 MiB > 1 packages(s) added since previous compose: openssl1.1 > 1 packages(s) removed since previous compose: gnome-desktop3 > System load changed from 1.29 to 1.49 > Average CPU usage changed from 25.33809524 to 36.23333333 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984819#downloads > Current test data: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/988741#downloads > > Installed system changes in test x86_64 universal > install_package_set_minimal: > Used mem changed from 181 MiB to 201 MiB > 1 packages(s) added since previous compose: openssl1.1 > Previous test data: > https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/984799#downloads > 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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-09-14
by Chris Murphy 18 Sep '21

18 Sep '21

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-09-14) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 05:01:56 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-09-18/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 05:02:10) * present: Allan, Neal, Kalev, Matthias, Tomas, Michael, Jens, Owen, Felipe (cmurf, 05:02:12) * regrets: Chris (cmurf, 05:02:14) * present guests: Luna Jernberg (bittin) (cmurf, 05:02:16) * Approval of September 7 minutes (cmurf, 05:02:18) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-09-08/workstation.2… (cmurf, 05:02:20) * AGREED: Approved (cmurf, 05:02:22) * Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (cmurf, 05:02:24) * Michael: In Fedora 35 gnome-initial-setup is in a pretty bad state (everything is broken). (cmurf, 05:02:26) * Toolbox is broken in Fedora 35 as well. (cmurf, 05:02:32) * Fedora 35 milestones (cmurf, 05:02:34) * ACTION: Owen to enable the missing fedora-third-party-refresh onboot service for silverblue. Tomas to help with testing. (cmurf, 05:02:40) * We've decided to disable parental controls in gnome-initial-setup. (cmurf, 05:02:44) * ACTION: Allan to file a ticket against gnome-initial-setup for FE; Kalev to disable it in gnome-initial-setup. (cmurf, 05:02:46) * GNOME Software 41 declares Fedora RPMs "unsafe" (cmurf, 05:02:48) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/244 (cmurf, 05:02:50) * Open Floor (cmurf, 05:03:06) Meeting ended at 05:05:23 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Owen to enable the missing fedora-third-party-refresh onboot service for silverblue. Tomas to help with testing. * Allan to file a ticket against gnome-initial-setup for FE; Kalev to disable it in gnome-initial-setup. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Owen to enable the missing fedora-third-party-refresh onboot service for silverblue. Tomas to help with testing. * Allan to file a ticket against gnome-initial-setup for FE; Kalev to disable it in gnome-initial-setup. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (34) * zodbot (7) * : (0) * Neal (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.3 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Fwd: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20210916.n.0 changes
by Luna Jernberg 16 Sep '21

16 Sep '21

---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 2:30 PM Subject: Fwd: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20210916.n.0 changes To: Martin Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>, Luna Jernberg < bittin(a)fedoraproject.org> ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Fedora rawhide compose report: 20210916.n.0 changes To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases < test(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> g-i-s is still broken in the Workstation iso for Rawhide today btw just fyi, crashing after install in a Virtualbox VM for me On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 2:20 PM Kalev Lember <kalevlember(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 2:14 PM Fabio Valentini <decathorpe(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 1:09 PM Fedora Rawhide Report >> <rawhide(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote: >> > ===== ADDED PACKAGES ===== >> > Package: atkmm2.36-2.36.1-1.fc36 >> > Summary: C++ interface for the ATK library >> > RPMs: atkmm2.36 atkmm2.36-devel atkmm2.36-doc >> > Size: 1.35 MiB >> >> (...) >> >> > Package: glibmm2.68-2.68.1-1.fc36 >> > Summary: C++ interface for the GLib library >> > RPMs: glibmm2.68 glibmm2.68-devel glibmm2.68-doc >> > Size: 12.65 MiB >> > >> > Package: gtkmm4.0-4.4.0-1.fc36 >> > Summary: C++ interface for the GTK+ library >> > RPMs: gtkmm4.0 gtkmm4.0-devel gtkmm4.0-doc >> > Size: 17.64 MiB >> > >> > Package: pangomm2.48-2.48.1-1.fc36 >> > Summary: C++ interface for Pango >> > RPMs: pangomm2.48 pangomm2.48-devel pangomm2.48-doc >> > Size: 1.26 MiB >> >> Is there a reason why these compat packages are done "the wrong way >> round"? >> They were requested with exceptions to the review process, but that >> exception only applies to requesting versioned compat packages for the >> *old* version, not the other way round ... >> > > Sure, there's a good reason! I wanted to keep the same pattern as gtk has, > so that there's gtk3 and matching gtkmm3.0, and gtk4 and matching gtkmm4.0. > > They are all long-lived parallel installable packages and most stuff is > going to be using the "old" gtkmm3.0 still for a number of years to come. > > Doing it this way also makes it much easier to add the new packages to F34 > where I don't want to be undertaking large package renaming. > > -- > Kalev > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure >

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