desktop March 2017

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Some performance criticisms of F25
by Michael Catanzaro 09 Jul '17

09 Jul '17

Hi, Jiri found this review (among many) of Fedora 25: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2016/12/fedora-25-review/ It includes a couple recommendations: * We should restore systemd-readahead to speed boot time by ~30% for users without SSDs. Endless has a downstream patch for this. Or we could use Ubuntu's readahead utility. * We should switch from CFQ to deadline I/O scheduler (which Ubuntu has been using for years) for subjective massive responsiveness improvements when the system is under load Of these, the later seems easier to change and more important. Anyone know why we're still using CFQ? If the answer is "it's better for servers" then perhaps we need a mechanism to adjust this on a per- product basis. Just wanted to put these issues back on the radar.... Michael

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[wayland] Applications are unable to grab input
by Christian Stadelmann 20 Apr '17

20 Apr '17

One main difference between x11 and wayland is that in x11 all applications receive all input whereas in wayland the compositor receives input and decides which application may receive it. This causes a major issue with application which need input grab for running or showing a nested desktop. This affects e.g. GUI virtual machines (SPICE clients), RDP clients, VNC clients, nested kwin/gnome-shell/whatever. See also: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1285770 . Games might also be affected, I don't know. I'm posting this here to raise attention because 1. to fix this we need another protocol (extension) 2. this issue can't be fixed in a single application, it needs the whole stack (wayland library, compositors, affected applications) to change Compared to the other bugs in "WaylandRelated" lists [1] [2], these bugs need architecture design, not just fixing bugs in one package. I don't know whether this mailing list is the right place to discuss an issue like this. If you know better, please tell me. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1277927&hide_resolved… [2] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=757579&hide_resolved=1

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[important] F26 Wallpapers
by Luya Tshimbalanga 29 Mar '17

29 Mar '17

Hello, Design team just finished packaging the default bakground for F26. What is needed is review to make it available for Alpha. I filed a freeze exception for that reason. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1434675 -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org W: http://www.coolest-storm.net

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Please test the latest f26-backgrounds
by Luya Tshimbalanga 29 Mar '17

29 Mar '17

An issue was found right after f26-backgrounds reached stable, the default wallpaper will not display on Gnome desktop. Please test to push the fix available as stable on https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-a10331aece Thanks. -- Luya Tshimbalanga Graphic & Web Designer E: luya(a)fedoraproject.org W: http://www.coolest-storm.net

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Why is ABRT missing in F26 Workstation composes?
by Jiri Eischmann 29 Mar '17

29 Mar '17

Hi, I wonder why gnome-abrt is not part of the default installation in Fedora 26 Workstation composes. Is it intentional or just a mistake? If intentional, what is the reason? I find ABRT crash report stats pretty useful. Jiri

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Broken dependencies: bijiben
by Pierre-Yves Luyten 29 Mar '17

29 Mar '17

Hi, i do not maintain bijiben & it does not build anymore. if someone is interested, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=728293 might help, there is a git branch someone started. also please forward if relevant because unfortunately i do not have time to follow up this properly. Regards Pierre-Yves

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WG meeting call for agenda Mon 2017-Mar-27
by Paul W. Frields 26 Mar '17

26 Mar '17

If you have additions or corrections for this agenda, please send by the end of this weekend. Our meeting will be held as usual on Monday, 2017-March-27 at 1300 UTC (09:00 US Eastern). * Atomic Host based Workstation - otaylor * What are the next steps to align better with Colin's ostree work? * F26 Marketing talking points - stickster * Point out URL and requesting edits (info) * Plymouth/keyboard layout issue - mclasen * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1405539 * This is a non-trivial fix. Although now it's not a blocker, has there been any developer discussion of how to address? -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 25 Mar '17

25 Mar '17

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2017-03-27 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/5163/

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3rd party software in Fedora Workstation
by Jiri Eischmann 23 Mar '17

23 Mar '17

Hi, I know there is a proposal for 3rd-party software inclusion: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Third_party_software_proposa l And even before that there was an idea to create a collection of Copr repositories with useful software that would be enabled by default in Fedora. I wonder if there is already a process for that. I think starting with software in Copr would be a good first step. The licenses are compatible and there are repositories with useful desktop apps that have proved to be frequently updated. E.g.: Tilix (formely Terminix) - https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/heik oada/terminix/ Iridium Browser (privacy-hardened Chromium) - https://copr.fedorainfrac loud.org/coprs/than/iridium-browser-project/ Jiri

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GNOME's VTE overwriting PROMPT_COMMAND
by Samuel Rakitničan 23 Mar '17

23 Mar '17

Dear list, There is an issue in Fedora Workstation with VTE for quite a while now that is not getting any sign of progress. Vte overwrites PROMPT_COMMAND environment variable with its own command and in the process breaking user's own setting, and in some cases even other applications. I've filled out a FESCo ticket [1] with this issue after I've got directed to this list. So the stale bug reports as follows: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1183192 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=704960 [1] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1694 Best regards, Samuel Rakitničan

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