desktop June 2018

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Release criteria proposal: installing / removing software
by Adam Williamson 16 Jul '18

16 Jul '18

Hi, folks! It's been noted a few times before that we have a release criterion that requires *updating* packages (or, these days, 'software', to cover things like modules) to work...but we don't have criteria covering other basic software management tasks, notably installing and removing. There is a possible justification for this: so long as update works, bugs in installation and removal can be fixed with updates. But really, it seems reasonable to me that we should require basic installation/removal of packages (and modules, and anything else we may choose to consider release critical now or in future, e.g. flatpaks, Shell extensions...) to work on release. So, I'm proposing we modify the existing Basic and Beta criteria that cover only updates, to also cover installation and removal. I like this a bit more than adding separate criteria as the footnotes would be very similar, and combining allows the footnotes to be shared. So, the Basic criterion would change from: "The installed system must be able to download and install appropriate updates with the default console tool for the relevant update type (e.g. default console package manager)." to: "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install appropriate updates for software with the default console tool for the relevant software type (e.g. default console package manager). This includes downloading of packages to be installed/updated." the Beta criterion would similarly change from: "The installed system must be able to download and install appropriate updates with the default tool for the relevant update type in all release-blocking desktops (e.g. default graphical package manager)." to: "The installed system must be able to install, remove, and install appropriate updates for software with the default tool for the relevant update type in all release-blocking desktops (e.g. default graphical package manager). This includes downloading of packages to be installed/updated." the footnotes would be tweaked to refer more generically to 'software' and stuff instead of 'updates', just kinda logical changes to reflect the broadened criterion; I can go into detail on that if anyone wants. Obviously if the criterion change is agreed upon, we will add test cases to the test matrices. Thoughts, comments, suggestions, acks and nacks? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 02 Jul '18

02 Jul '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2018-07-02 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Chair: * Monday Jun 18 - Michael Catanzaro * Monday Jul 02 - Matthias Clasen * Monday Jul 16 - Rex Dieter * Monday Jul 30 - Paul Frields * Monday Aug 06 - Kalev Lember * Monday Aug 20 - Ryan Lerch * Monday Sep 03 - Jens Petersen * Monday Sep 17 - Christian Schaller * Monday Oct 01 - Owen Taylor More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6411/

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2018-June-18
by mcatanzaro＠gnome.org 21 Jun '18

21 Jun '18

Hi, I forgot to send the meeting recap from Monday's WG meeting. Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-18/workstation_w… Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-18/workstati… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-18/workstation_w… ============================== #fedora-meeting-2: workstation ============================== Meeting started by mcatanzaro at 13:00:15 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-18/workstation_w… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (mcatanzaro, 13:00:26) * VS Code repo as external repo (mcatanzaro, 13:08:34) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/52 (mcatanzaro, 13:08:38) * PyCharm repo doesn't work (mcatanzaro, 13:10:46) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/55 (mcatanzaro, 13:10:49) * ACTION: cschalle to follow up with repo maintainer (mcatanzaro, 13:14:47) * firefox-wayland desktop file (mcatanzaro, 13:15:21) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/59 (mcatanzaro, 13:15:25) * Wayland remoting (mcatanzaro, 13:20:52) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/60 (mcatanzaro, 13:20:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:DefaultServices (sgallagh, 13:25:14) * ACTION: : mclasen to file a bz for the pipewire socket activation change (mclasen, 13:31:38) * ACTION: : kalev to add gnome-remote-desktop to comps (mclasen, 13:32:56) * : open floor (mclasen, 13:33:07) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/61 (cschalle, 13:33:20) * ACTION: cschaller/mclasen to find a packager for the gpu governor tool thing (mclasen, 13:51:11) Meeting ended at 13:52:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ * cschalle to follow up with repo maintainer * : mclasen to file a bz for the pipewire socket activation change * : kalev to add gnome-remote-desktop to comps * cschaller/mclasen to find a packager for the gpu governor tool thing Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cschalle * cschalle to follow up with repo maintainer * cschaller/mclasen to find a packager for the gpu governor tool thing * kalev * : kalev to add gnome-remote-desktop to comps * mclasen * : mclasen to file a bz for the pipewire socket activation change * cschaller/mclasen to find a packager for the gpu governor tool thing * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mclasen (43) * mcatanzaro (40) * cschalle (35) * kalev (11) * zodbot (10) * ryanlerch (8) * sgallagh (7) * rdieter (6) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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can we get some text on the page where people used to set their passwords?
by Matthew Miller 21 Jun '18

21 Jun '18

I'm seeing a number of user help requests where there's confusion about not being prompted for a password. Can we change that screen so instead of saying "configuration", it has some information about the first login configuration? Maybe this screen could change to have more room for the "banners", and we could update them? -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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Workstation WG meeting notes
by Matthias Clasen 18 Jun '18

18 Jun '18

Notes from the June 18 Workstation WG meeting can be found here: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-18/workstation_w…

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 16 Jun '18

16 Jun '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2018-06-18 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: [https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](https… Chair: * Monday Feb 12 - Michael Catanzaro * Monday Feb 26 - Matthias Clasen * Monday Mar 12 - Rex Dieter * Monday Mar 26 - Paul Frields * Monday Apr 09 - Kalev Lember * Monday Apr 23 - Ryan Lerch * Monday May 07 - Jens Petersen * Monday May 21 - Christian Schaller * Monday Jun 04 - Owen Taylor More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6411/

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2018-June-04
by Owen Taylor 04 Jun '18

04 Jun '18

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-04/workstation.2… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-04/workstation.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-04/workstation.2… ================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by otaylor at 13:00:38 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2018-06-04/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (otaylor, 13:00:57) * pycharm repository (otaylor, 13:07:11) * vscode as 3rd party repository (https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/52) (otaylor, 13:09:00) * ACTION: cschalle will follow up on the pycharm and vscode 3rd party repositories and report back in 2 weeks (otaylor, 13:20:09) * Need an end-user docs / wiki page for Third Party Repositories - https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/41 (otaylor, 13:20:54) * open floor (otaylor, 13:23:24) * AGREED: the workstation working group supports the move to hiding the grub menu by default (+5;0;0) (otaylor, 13:44:20) * LINK: https://www.redhat.com/archives/libosinfo/2018-June/msg00007.html (mclasen, 13:49:55) * silverblue will show up in gnome boxes list of install options soon, it is being added to libosinfo as a separate item (otaylor, 13:52:28) Meeting ended at 13:55:35 UTC. Action Items ------------ * cschalle will follow up on the pycharm and vscode 3rd party repositories and report back in 2 weeks Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cschalle * cschalle will follow up on the pycharm and vscode 3rd party repositories and report back in 2 weeks * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * otaylor (51) * mclasen (22) * zodbot (13) * cschalle (11) * juhp (7) * ryanlerch (5) * linuxmodder (1) * x3mlinux (1) * rdieter (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 02 Jun '18

02 Jun '18

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2018-06-04 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: [https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](https… Chair: * Monday Feb 12 - Michael Catanzaro * Monday Feb 26 - Matthias Clasen * Monday Mar 12 - Rex Dieter * Monday Mar 26 - Paul Frields * Monday Apr 09 - Kalev Lember * Monday Apr 23 - Ryan Lerch * Monday May 07 - Jens Petersen * Monday May 21 - Christian Schaller * Monday Jun 04 - Owen Taylor More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6411/

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