desktop March 2015

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Lock screen wallpaper
by Michael Catanzaro 28 Apr '15

28 Apr '15

Hi, For the past couple of releases we have defaulted to a Fedora desktop background alongside the upstream GNOME lockscreen wallpaper. I do like the upstream lock screen background, but I'd prefer if it would match the desktop background by default, instead of having two wallpapers that were clearly designed separately and not intended to be used together. Any opposition to using the Fedora background for the lock screen as well? This means the art would be the same for both, unless the Fedora background folks come up with a different wallpaper for the lock screen. Also, a question: *where* does this setting exist? I was expecting a gschema override in gsettings-desktop-schemas, or maybe a patch to gnome-backgrounds, but I can't find it anywhere. Michael

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release criteria for printing
by Chris Murphy 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

I don't see any release criteria for printing capabilities, local or remote. Should there be? I just stumbled onto this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1187999 I haven't tried to reproduce so I don't know what the scope is, whether it's a network printer (built-in server of some kind) or a CUPS managed remote printer. But the apparent combination of firewall blocking IPP by default (and permitting it fixing this problem) and Fedora 21 Workstation didn't ship firewall-config by default either, seems to be a setup for bad UX. Hence, should there be some sort of print related criterion? What should it be? And for which release? -- Chris Murphy

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any interest in a fedora branded sound theme
by kendell clark 04 Apr '15

04 Apr '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi all I've been thinking about this for a couple of weeks. Is there any interest in a fedora branded freedesktop compliant sound theme, possibly to go on the workstation image? I'd be glad to either take on this task myself or help produce one. I'm reasonably knowledgeable in the freedesktop sound spec so can make a pretty complete sound theme if anyone is interested. Do the fedora packaging guidelines apply to system sounds as well EG, no proprietary sounds from windows and/or mac? Thanks for reading Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVFeiKAAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTdP5EQAJg7Y4RUHsZAxj2lXnounHML I3X9ZlTws5k3ilwFZMIwmYnoUCKGoOpnfbrz1e4uVH9drBJnHUL1ASsjdf0AZqwm er6y/ZZL4uidR7Xeh1ZrKkud7EUGGKnx16QrrylamD8pMWWiu/VOtW+ugu/YEZnV zv4Iv9mg6BK15VSyqsUjcSgDIDjjiVOPXtr7vaLmgZ4WrODZ4LVzTemAQOhzytQI uP40tWw6khX3mg5lSu6584vFPJJ3b7OynzDUCdH9EtKz1p2bgeWGrDPYVf1uX3HC Swc6NCNi/ZALTll/DzA5rJnppXtlhmrtzChba35RIuQ/zhbZzWdf2pPVWYNNX5sx Hbd3aSS70+hbva5wVv0IX906lbp8LVheH014JOpvQoZWcVshIdyk3/8PSPyNSraa 4KcOAPhE+QIBWt+E33GJ1iUhHSq3PCtgxSWB+sPhDhxmFcKlIqHYNibiO2H/9v1w H4Muej7xzBCUNehDQbHpu7f8CEk8/DJ7Le/1JPEw6a44FRWZMuTNarYQXOto3G3p ew2pdXlTbptg0oTyKx3H7YmF03ir4vNeQB1huY+QkvyXL08PEOnrvL/gdoCXOy1V nMentzwYvoFSzakBiukALAPW4Pen40apxkmO9xlnb3nhWSnQAaate2eIcosMTwpl 5AnPyHvjk3+Uw0WMVgBP =zgyN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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New Workstation WG meeting time
by Paul W. Frields 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

I set up a meeting time survey at whenisgood.net. All WG members, please visit and indicate your availability: http://whenisgood.net/f-ws-wg-201503 I'll collect all the responses by end of the day next Monday, 2015-Mar-23. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Request to include gnome-maps by default in F22
by Debarshi Ray 01 Apr '15

01 Apr '15

Hey, Allan and I would like to include gnome-maps in the default Workstation installation in Fedora 22. It is a nice little core GNOME application (like Clocks and Weather) that has come a long way. In GNOME 3.16 (ie. Fedora 22), it has Foursquare and Facebook integration for check-ins. Having the application in the default installation would let us turn on the the Foursquare provider in gnome-online-accounts. Otherwise, users will be looking at an option that they can't use out of the box, which is bad. Thanks, Debarshi

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Call for agenda for Workstation WG meeting 2015-Mar-31
by Paul W. Frields 31 Mar '15

31 Mar '15

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:48:19AM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > Next meeting is Wednesday, 2015-Mar-31 at 1500 UTC/11:00am US-EDT. > Please note the UTC time change. Agenda additions are welcome. Correcting subject, this is the right date/time. > * Input for pwquality changes needed for F23 > * What do we need to get good Workstation installation experience? > > * Maps inclusion, anything left to decide here? > * IIUC Bastien made change already > > * Chrome justification > * Paul is tardy on this, sorry, will work on it for next meeting -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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Call for agenda for Workstation WG meeting 2015-Mar-18
by Paul W. Frields 31 Mar '15

31 Mar '15

Next meeting is Wednesday, 2015-Mar-31 at 1500 UTC/11:00am US-EDT. Please note the UTC time change. Agenda additions are welcome. * Input for pwquality changes needed for F23 * What do we need to get good Workstation installation experience? * Maps inclusion, anything left to decide here? * IIUC Bastien made change already * Chrome justification * Paul is tardy on this, sorry, will work on it for next meeting -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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City list in Anaconda and gnome-maps
by Donald Buchan 31 Mar '15

31 Mar '15

Since the subject of gnome-maps is current right now ... When I installed Fedora 21, I was mildly piqued that I couldn't choose Montreal, home for me. According to the online Fedora Documentation, section 5.4.3 (1), "The list of cities and regions comes from the Time Zone Database (tzdata) public domain, which is maintained by the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA). The Fedora Project can not add cities or regions into this database." Ok, grumble grumble, I used to be able to choose Montreal in Anaconda. I chose New York, about 595km away; I could have chosen Toronto at about 542km away. After install gnome-maps today, I opened it and it immediately displayed a map of New York City, presumably since gnome-maps looked up my city location, which I entered in Anaconda, found New York, and displayed a pin over New York City. I assume that /usr/share/zoneinfo/ is populated from the Time Zone Database; the files for the various regions are a little bit text and apparently a good amount of binary. Is there a way for the common user to populate this directory with custom entries? More generally, is there a way to specify a closer city in the settings so that a user gets a ballpark useful starting location if their hometown or metropolitan area isn't in the list mentioned above? Thanks (1) http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/21/html/Installation_Guide/sect-…

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Re: City list in Anaconda and gnome-maps
by Donald Buchan 31 Mar '15

31 Mar '15

Bug filed: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89838 On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 07:39 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Then it's likely that the data is incorrect in Mozilla's servers. Please file a bug against geoclue at bugzilla.freedesktop.org so we can assert that (and so that geoclue ships with some debugging tools). > > ----- Original Message ----- > > On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 06:38 -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > On 31 March 2015 at 05:24, Donald Buchan <malak(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > > > > > After install gnome-maps today, I opened it and it immediately > > > > > displayed > > > > > a map of New York City, presumably since gnome-maps looked up my city > > > > > location, which I entered in Anaconda, found New York, and displayed a > > > > > pin over New York City. > > > > > > > > > > The first time I opened GNOME Maps (i.e. right now) I too saw New York > > > > City, and I'm in Plymouth, UK (about 5337km away). My system is > > > > configured > > > > to use Europe/London at the time zone. Could your home city selection be > > > > a > > > > red herring with regard to GNOME Maps? > > > > > > He's most likely behind a VPN or corporate network that shows its head in > > > New York, > > > or Mozilla's location services contain inaccurate data about his IP > > > address. > > > > > > > My computer is hooked up to a router which is hooked up to a modem > > getting its signal from the phone company, Bell Canada > > ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Canada ) No VPN, no corporate > > network. > > > > >

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package request: have qt-at-spi installed by default
by kendell clark 30 Mar '15

30 Mar '15

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 hi all I hesitate to do this because I"m not sure what the proper way is to request a package be installed in fedora by default, but I'd like to request that the package qt-at-spi be installed in all fedora releases from now on, at least until qt4 is eol and apps switch over to qt5. To be brief, qt-at-spi is a plugin that bridges the qAccessible API to at-spi, so that apps written in qt can talk to orca. Applications that use qt5 do not need this, the accessibility bits are built in to qt5. Along with qt-at-spi, if this gets included, a small script will need to be put into /etc/profile.d called qt-accessibility.sh, with the following content. export QT_ACCESSIBILITY=1. Once this is done, applications like vlc, mumble, etc read with orca. Until this is done these applications are silent. For some reason the qt-at-spi package doesn't include this script. This package needs no maintenance, once installed in the live image it's done, no further action is needed. qt-at-spi is no longer maintained upstream, and is only needed for qt4 applications I'm not sure if qt-at-spi pulls in most of qt with it, and if so I can see why it is not installed by default, but I don't believe it does Thanks Kendell clark Sent from Fedora GNU/Linux -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVFIj7AAoJEGYgJ5/kqBTdIRUP/RzOkAEa4UYb2J9hVfAMziQv 3LPqK1x4rhPbELaAS+qNWYgmGhWMktSF9b0jPaO3XWInaWbX8CkyYJr1NFqGczds busdmseJc+9su3X3BsTRYW8CKf26q4jswmishAARpqd2g3nncgYVMHJPflyhT3Su CllvVO82FvxMpdPa6pf0Te/mIfTDRDIa8m6z5wIe75hE+LC0Lpvr9ww+BGFuKx0/ F0c9JvBP5wPuy2UsL3gfjEGKUfnOp/5MO8ae7qy1aAWDga1Ukr+Gl+dPOZ0HY/y5 CDK1S6RQAQnMdTmvJPpm280Neq3utm1RsrhRvW5mMKnXqicpCm8Z43bY0BUsavLq Vk/acI5s/SAm6c0Su9Qh6exIAjHePXApp45urBJwFJyHziR1GechoLxpQtNggQ9F 76XKmLI1l9tlELRWk9G2cVpQUeLvekXlW0Ne7sRFmHnx40xEW4XCAdrE4l/4i9nf TG8jIejfiWpgDWzV2uSwXh9ZAmT7wAwcWswW91fM//gN381eZHfTnq47btaFASM2 rSAVO6yfBrnBHH4k7lqTfD5GJlF9dSUo+uTuF36qp/1m3OmmtzqNP3M/SSm3jolY wa5Y4aGxevaIL9+wgB1MRc/tcAPjtIYWa4cbOAkvyVV5Ch3lAEeHdqLlVYnxctRG mNB/BHVpXbqL7wq+G1hi =Gjht -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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