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Coordinating resolution of BZ 1912046
by Ben Cotton 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

I've been asked to coordinate a resolution of BZ 1912046 (BASH_FUNC environment variables reigning havoc and it just keeps getting worse) between systemd, GNOME, and KDE maintainers. Anyone want to volunteer to be the contact? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1912046 Thanks, BC -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis

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GNOME 40 first impressions
by Michel Alexandre Salim 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

Hi, I just tried out the new GNOME 40 COPR discussed in the Workstation WG meeting: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/210 https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/haeckerfelix/gnome-shell-40/ ``` $ rpm -q gnome-shell gnome-shell-40.0~alpha-1.20210110.0.x86_64 ``` First impressions are positive! Breaking down my observations by category. UX: - Mostly fine. I miss being able to have a "God's Eye view" of all my desktops when triggering the Activities view, with the new design as is I have to scroll Stability: - seems fine under Wayland. Experiencing screen tearing under X11 (using Element.io's Matrix client via Flatpak and Kitty) Regressions: - Toggling natural scrolling on and off has no effect, it behaves as if natural scrolling is off - GNOME Tweaks no longer allows toggling extensions on and off (even though it doesn't come from this COPR; I have not looked into how this works under the hood). It should probably recommend gnome-extensions- app - This interacts poorly with PaperWM: Alt-Tab/Super-Tab didn't work, every window but the last launched would not show up (and every app launched automatically on login), and disabling the extension via gnome-extensions-app didn't fully fix the disappearing windows until the next login. Not unexpected, let me know if I should file a bug against PaperWM now or wait until later? I expect Material Shell to be even more impacted, as it more heavily modifies the Shell environment Best regards, -- Michel Alexandre Salim profile: https://keyoxide.org/michel@michel-slm.name chat via email: https://delta.chat/ GPG key: 5DCE 2E7E 9C3B 1CFF D335 C1D7 8B22 9D2F 7CCC 04F2

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-01-12
by Chris Murphy 14 Jan '21

14 Jan '21

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-01-12) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 07:52:10 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-01-14/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * (cmurf, 07:52:33) * present: cmurf, aday, neil, mclasen, mcatanzaro, langdon, kalev, tpopela, otaylor, petersen, (cmurf, 07:52:35) * regrets: (cmurf, 07:52:37) * present guests: salimma, javier martinez, zac (cmurf, 07:52:39) * Approval of 05 Jan minutes: (cmurf, 07:52:41) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-01-07/workstation.2… (cmurf, 07:52:43) * AGREED: Approved - no objections (cmurf, 07:52:45) * Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (cmurf, 07:52:47) * Potential issue with Hidden GRUB menu + boot on btrfs (cmurf, 07:52:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/206 (cmurf, 07:52:57) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UnifyGrubConfig (cmurf, 07:53:19) * ACTION: Javier to share a link to the upstream discussion when it happens. (cmurf, 07:53:33) * AGREED: We will wait for the grub proposal to be agreed upstream before proceeding. (cmurf, 07:53:35) * GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software (cmurf, 07:53:37) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/203 (cmurf, 07:53:39) * ACTION: Allan to draw a mockup of what his preferred solution would look like, so working group members can provide feedback. (cmurf, 07:53:47) * Updated activities overview design for GNOME 40 / F34 (cmurf, 07:53:49) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/210 (cmurf, 07:53:51) * LINK: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/haeckerfelix/gnome-shell-40/ (cmurf, 07:53:53) Meeting ended at 07:55:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Javier to share a link to the upstream discussion when it happens. * Allan to draw a mockup of what his preferred solution would look like, so working group members can provide feedback. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Javier to share a link to the upstream discussion when it happens. * Allan to draw a mockup of what his preferred solution would look like, so working group members can provide feedback. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (51) * zodbot (7) * mcatanzaro (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2021-01-12 Meeting Agenda
by Michael Catanzaro 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-01-12 9:30 AM EST 14:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of 05 Jan minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-01-07/workstation.2… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Potential issue with Hidden GRUB menu + boot on btrfs https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/206 GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/203 Updated activities overview design for GNOME 40 / F34 https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/210 Open Floor

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Uh, is GNOME Web broken?
by Matthew Miller 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

On Fedora 33, I wanted to play with something in a browser other than Firefox, and rather than going with Chrome I installed GNOME Web. But... it doesn't work. I get "unable to display this website" with any address I use, with http or https. The precise error is Error resolvinging "neverssl.com": Name or service not known (For whatever address.) I'm using systemd-resolved, and name resolution seems to work just fine otherwise. I notice that the currently-latest review in GNOME Software also mentions that this doesn't work. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 11 Jan '21

11 Jan '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-01-12 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9884/

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2021-01-05
by Chris Murphy 06 Jan '21

06 Jan '21

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2021-01-05) ============================================== Meeting started by cmurf at 04:57:05 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021-01-07/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (cmurf, 04:57:41) * present: chris, tomas, michael, matthias, allan, jens, neal, kalev, owen, langdon (cmurf, 04:57:42) * regrets: (cmurf, 04:57:44) * present guests: michel salim, anita zhang, davide cavalca, alex gartrell, josef bacik (cmurf, 04:57:46) * Approval of 17 Dec minutes (cmurf, 04:57:48) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-12-17/workstation.2… (cmurf, 04:57:50) * AGREED: no objections (cmurf, 04:57:52) * Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (cmurf, 04:57:54) * Allan: Major UI changes in GNOME 40 are slowly coming (cmurf, 04:57:56) * Enable transparent compression by default (cmurf, 04:58:06) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/177 (cmurf, 04:58:08) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BtrfsTransparentCompression (cmurf, 04:58:10) * AGREED: this feature is a good idea, let's do it (cmurf, 04:58:28) * systemd-oomd (cmurf, 04:58:30) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnableSystemdOomd (cmurf, 04:58:32) * AGREED: from Fedora Workstation WG POV this is good to go (cmurf, 04:58:38) * GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software (cmurf, 04:58:40) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/203 (cmurf, 04:58:42) * Open Floor (cmurf, 04:58:46) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/209 (cmurf, 04:58:50) Meeting ended at 04:59:41 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * cmurf (40) * zodbot (7) * mcatanzaro (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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2021-01-05 Meeting Agenda (secretary: Tomas)
by Michael Catanzaro 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

Workstation Working Group Meeting Date and Time: 2021-01-05 9:30 AM EST 14:30 UTC Location: https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers Approval of 15 Dec minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2020-12-17/workstation.2… Announcements, follow-ups, status reports Enable transparent compression by default https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/177 GNOME Software is recommending proprietary software https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/203 Open Floor

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 04 Jan '21

04 Jan '21

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2021-01-05 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9884/

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