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2022-09-19 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 37 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 16 Sep '22

16 Sep '22

# F36 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2022-09-19 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat Hi folks! We have 4 proposed Final blockers and 6 proposed Final freeze exceptions to review, so let's have a review meeting. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!** We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F36 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Have a good weekend and see you Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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Workstation WG meeting, 20 September (secretary: Owen)
by Allan Day 16 Sep '22

16 Sep '22

Hi all, The next meeting of the Fedora Workstation Working Group is planned for Tuesday 20 September, at 9.30 EDT. Join links: - https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ - https://www.bluejeans.com/numbers See below for the agenda. Allan -- Agenda #topic F37 release status #topic Blockers discussed last week https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2111003 - Michael to follow up on the Contacts crash that's blockiing the fix - that's https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/266 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110 - Matthias to get Carlos or Ray to look at it https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2125439 - Matthias to ask the tester if they have the latest gstreamer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2106868 - Kalev to resolve this - requires a new package #topic Announcements, Status Updates #info The minutes from last week have been posted. #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-13/workstation.2… #topic Improve the user feedback for OOM situations #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202 It looks like this got done? Which Fedora release is it targeting? Should we be testing it? #topic Give ABRT some ❤ #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/130 Where is this at? #topic Consider limiting journal size #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/213 Latest action was to create a concrete proposal, but who should do this, and where would the proposal go?

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Giving gnome-sig access to rpms/blueprint-compiler
by Lyes Saadi 14 Sep '22

14 Sep '22

Hello, I'm maintaining the blueprint-compiler package for Fedora. I figured out that the gnome-sig would probably be interested in maintaining this package as well. So, should I give the gnome-sig admin/commit rights over rpms/blueprint-compiler? Greetings, Lyes Saadi

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues
by Luna Jernberg 14 Sep '22

14 Sep '22

Sorry i missed the meeting today On 9/6/22, Ben Cotton <bcotton(a)redhat.com> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 6:00 AM <bcotton(a)redhat.com> wrote: >> >> You are kindly invited to the meeting: >> Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-09-07 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 >> America/Indiana/Indianapolis >> At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat >> >> More information available at: >> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/ > > There are no nominated or accepted bugs, so the meeting is cancelled. > > > > -- > Ben Cotton > He / Him / His > Fedora Program Manager > Red Hat > TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis > _______________________________________________ > triage mailing list -- triage(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to triage-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/triage@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >

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Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work
by Adam Williamson 14 Sep '22

14 Sep '22

Hey folks! So a bug came up at today's blocker review meeting: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2106868 it takes a minute to parse, but the tl;dr is that right now in Fedora 37, you can't go to https://extensions.gnome.org and install extensions. We agreed that it doesn't violate any existing release criteria, but to me, this is actually kind of a significant problem. Anecdotally, I get the impression that a lot of our Workstation users do use extensions, and not being able to easily install them on a fresh install would be a big problem for them, and make us look pretty bad. We have a handful of extensions packaged, though I'm not sure how well they're kept up to date. Aside from those, I don't know of any other really practical way for regular users to install extensions besides https://extensions.gnome.org . Is there one? Assuming for now that there isn't, I'm gonna propose this as a Final release criterion to see how people feel about it, to come after "Default panel functionality": ##### === GNOME extensions === On Fedora Workstation, it must be possible to install and remove extensions by visiting https://extensions.gnome.org in the default web browser, after installing the required browser extension. ##### Do folks think this is important enough to block Final release on? Desktop folks, do you consider it "supportable"? Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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Fwd: Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-13
by Luna Jernberg 14 Sep '22

14 Sep '22

---------- Forwarded message --------- Från: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: ons 14 sep. 2022 09:14 Subject: Re: Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-13 To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop < desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, Allan Day <aday(a)redhat.com>, Martin Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com>, lunajernberg <lunajernberg(a)gnome.org>, Allan Day <aday(a)gnome.org>, tpopela <tpopela(a)redhat.com>, lists < lists(a)colorremedies.com>, lists <lists(a)coliris.com>, cmurf < cmurf(a)fedoraproject.org>, Luna Jernberg <bittin(a)fedoraproject.org> Hey! Reading the log now, had a private thing i had to do yesterday, will try to attend again next week On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 10:44 PM Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com> wrote: > ============================================== > #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-09-13) > ============================================== > > > Meeting started by brainycmurf at 20:35:57 UTC. The full logs are > available at > > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-13/workstation.2… > . > > > > Meeting summary > --------------- > * Present members: Allan, Chris, Michael, Kalev, Matthias, Jens, Neal, > Owen (brainycmurf, 20:36:20) > * Guests: (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) > * Regrets: Tomáš, Luna (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) > * Missing: (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) > * Secretary: Matthias (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) > * F37 release status (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) > * gnome-contacts 43.rc is stuck, due to issues (brainycmurf, > 20:36:25) > * LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/266 > (brainycmurf, 20:36:27) > * gnome 43 final, test week results (brainycmurf, 20:36:31) > * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 (brainycmurf, > 20:36:33) > > * i18n test day results (brainycmurf, 20:36:45) > * LINK: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day > (brainycmurf, 20:36:47) > > * F37 blocker bugs (brainycmurf, 20:36:57) > * LINK: > https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist > (brainycmurf, 20:36:59) > * ACTION: Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue > (brainycmurf, 20:37:19) > * ACTION: Matthias to comment on the issue (brainycmurf, 20:37:36) > * proposal to cover it under release criteria (brainycmurf, 20:37:41) > * LINK: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.o… > (brainycmurf, 20:37:43) > * ACTION: Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer > (brainycmurf, 20:37:50) > * ACTION: : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression > (brainycmurf, 20:38:20) > > * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 20:38:22) > * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, > 20:38:24) > * LINK: > > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation.2… > (brainycmurf, 20:38:26) > > Meeting ended at 20:41:31 UTC. > > > > > Action Items > ------------ > * Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue > * Matthias to comment on the issue > * Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer > * : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression > > > > > Action Items, by person > ----------------------- > * **UNASSIGNED** > * Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue > * Matthias to comment on the issue > * Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer > * : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression > > > > > People Present (lines said) > --------------------------- > * brainycmurf (77) > * zodbot (7) > * Allan (0) > > > > > Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 > > .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions > _______________________________________________ > desktop mailing list -- desktop(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.o… > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue >

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Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2022-09-13
by Chris Murphy 13 Sep '22

13 Sep '22

============================================== #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2022-09-13) ============================================== Meeting started by brainycmurf at 20:35:57 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-13/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Present members: Allan, Chris, Michael, Kalev, Matthias, Jens, Neal, Owen (brainycmurf, 20:36:20) * Guests: (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * Regrets: Tomáš, Luna (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * Missing: (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * Secretary: Matthias (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * F37 release status (brainycmurf, 20:36:21) * gnome-contacts 43.rc is stuck, due to issues (brainycmurf, 20:36:25) * LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/266 (brainycmurf, 20:36:27) * gnome 43 final, test week results (brainycmurf, 20:36:31) * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/140 (brainycmurf, 20:36:33) * i18n test day results (brainycmurf, 20:36:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-09-06_I18N_Test_Day (brainycmurf, 20:36:47) * F37 blocker bugs (brainycmurf, 20:36:57) * LINK: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist (brainycmurf, 20:36:59) * ACTION: Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue (brainycmurf, 20:37:19) * ACTION: Matthias to comment on the issue (brainycmurf, 20:37:36) * proposal to cover it under release criteria (brainycmurf, 20:37:41) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.o… (brainycmurf, 20:37:43) * ACTION: Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer (brainycmurf, 20:37:50) * ACTION: : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression (brainycmurf, 20:38:20) * Announcements, Status Updates (brainycmurf, 20:38:22) * The minutes from last week have been posted. (brainycmurf, 20:38:24) * LINK: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2022-09-07/workstation.2… (brainycmurf, 20:38:26) Meeting ended at 20:41:31 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue * Matthias to comment on the issue * Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer * : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Matthias to ping Carlos or Ray about the keyboard issue * Matthias to comment on the issue * Kalev will reach out to the package maintainer * : Michael to reach out to Niels about the regression People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brainycmurf (77) * zodbot (7) * Allan (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work
by Adam Williamson 12 Sep '22

12 Sep '22

On Mon, 2022-09-12 at 14:39 -0700, Scott Beamer wrote: > On 9/12/22 12:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hey folks! > > > > So a bug came up at today's blocker review meeting: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2106868 > > > > it takes a minute to parse, but the tl;dr is that right now in Fedora > > 37, you can't go tohttps://extensions.gnome.org and install > > extensions. > > Actually, that's not true. You *can* install the few extensions that > have been updated for GNOME 43, but what you *can't* do is use any of > the other new functionality on extensions.gnome.org. They used to show > you what those functions were, but they were greyed out (IIRC, one of > them allowed you to disable compatibility checks so that you could > install any extension - broken or not). I don't recall what the other > one was, because the options are removed for anyone not on the current API. > > This message currently appears on the website with GNOME 42 in Fedora 36 > and 37. > > "Your native host connector do not support following APIs: v6. Probably > you should upgrade native host connector or install plugins for missing > APIs. Referdocumentation > <https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShellIntegrationForChrome/Installation>for > instructions." Oh, yes, you're right. That does make the bug less critical indeed. I guess it happened to be the case that none of the three or four random extensions I tested with is updated to 43, so that's why I thought the bug prevented installing them... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by catanzaro＠fedoraproject.org 12 Sep '22

12 Sep '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2022-09-13 from 09:30:00 to 10:30:00 US/Eastern At https://bluejeans.com/395383051/ The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group Current Topics: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting Etherpad: https://etherpad.gnome.org/p/fedora-workstation-wg More information available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10142/

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Fwd: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week
by Luna Jernberg 12 Sep '22

12 Sep '22

and Fedora with GNOME ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 07:54:21 +0200 Subject: Fwd: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week To: droidbittin(a)gmail.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Luna Jernberg <droidbittin(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 07:54:02 +0200 Subject: KDE on Linux Unplugged this week To: neon <neon(a)kde.org>, kde <kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org>, kde-devel <kde-devel(a)kde.org>, kde <kde(a)lists.opensuse.org>, kde <kde(a)kde.org>, kde-community <kde-community(a)kde.org>, kde-promo <kde-promo(a)kde.org>, kubuntu-devel <kubuntu-devel(a)lists.ubuntu.com>, kubuntu-users <kubuntu-users(a)lists.ubuntu.com> https://linuxunplugged.com/475 KDE Talk in this weeks LUP

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