desktop March 2011

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gdm changes and the live cd
by Matthias Clasen 15 Mar '11

15 Mar '11

There are some changes in GDM and GNOME3 that affect our live cd setup, and will require some changes: GDM no longer has a keyboard or language chooser. They were mainly added to cater to livecd must-choose-before login scenarios, but they proved to be really problematic ever since we added them, since they cause a conflict between multiple configuration sources (system keyboard layout vs stored user configuration vs login screen choice, etc). Without these choosers, it doesn't really make sense anymore to stop at the login screen with a time login, and we should consider to just autologin directly to the user session. The session will start in English, and users who need a different language will have to select the language in System Settings > Region and re-login. Keyboard configuration is less problematic, since it can be changed without requiring a re-login. We no longer show icons on the desktop, so there is no immediately obvious place to show the 'install to hard disk' launcher. The alternatives are to make it a favourite in the shell overview, or to add it as a menuitem in the user menu. Both of these have some drawbacks (the favourite does not display any text, leaving the user to guess from the icon, the user menu requires a gnome-shell patch). An alternative I'd like to propose is to simply autostart the installer. That will make it hard to overlook, and seems to nicely emphasize the main role of the live cd as a convenient way to install Fedora. Thoughts ? Matthias

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Is there an easy way to keep running metacity instead of gnome-shell?
by Bruno Wolff III 12 Mar '11

12 Mar '11

Now that gnome-panel is requiring gnome-shell, I can't just not install gnome-shell to continue running metacity. Is there an easy way to continue running metacity (maybe with gsettings)?

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f15 and orca
by Jonathan Nadeau 11 Mar '11

11 Mar '11

Hello list, I have just downloaded and installed f15 and that went well. But once I got it installed I noticed that the orca screen reader is not installed by default. So I went ahead with some help and installed Orca through the add/remove software. Once it was installed and I tried to run Orca it said that it was missing the accessibility bus. I tried to search for this accessibility bus with the add/remove software but could not find it. i know this is Alpha but it would be great to see Orca installed by default for the Beta. If you could give me any help or direction on how to fix this I would appreciate it. Also I would love to do any accessibility testing for Fedora so please let me know if there is anything I can do. Thanks for all your hard work. --Jonathan nadeau

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Reminder: today is GNOME 3 Test Day #2
by Adam Williamson 10 Mar '11

10 Mar '11

Hi, everyone! Just a quick reminder that today is the second Test Day for GNOME 3: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-10_GNOME3_Beta . Please do come along and help with testing if you can. We're having trouble with the 32-bit live image, but a 64-bit image is available now and all the test instructions are in place. We'll be in #fedora-test-day on IRC all day long to help out with testing, so come along and join us there. Thanks a lot! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Second GNOME 3 Test Day coming up this Thursday
by Adam Williamson 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Hi, all - just a quick reminder that the second GNOME 3 Test Day is coming up this Thursday, 2011-03-10. The first Test Day was a great success and there's no reason this one shouldn't be, too. :) Big thanks to Vitezslav Humpa and Radek Lat who have done most of the preparation for this one. The Wiki page is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-10_GNOME3_Beta and the IRC channel will be #fedora-test-day on Freenode, again. Please do take a look at the new stuff on the Wiki compared to last event and let me, Vitezslav and/or Radek (vhumpa and rlat at redhat, respectively) know if there are any problems with it. We're expecting not to need custom live images this time and just use nightlies instead, so desktop team, please make sure all the packages we need to have in for testing are pushed to f15 'stable' by then; let us know if you need any help getting an update upkarma'ed. Again, it'll really help to have the word spread about the event, so if you have a blog or a line to a favorite news site or anything, please help out with that. I'll put up a blog post about the event shortly which you can link to if you like. Aside from that, if you can come along to the IRC channel during the day and help with testing and assisting other testers, of course that will be a great help! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Orphaning some GNOME packages
by Christoph Wickert 06 Mar '11

06 Mar '11

(CC'ing desktop list, perhaps somebody is interested in these packages) I am orphaning all my GNOME panel applets because I don't use GNOME any longer and I doubt that panel applets will have a future after GNOME 3.0 is released. * gnome-netstatus: Doesn't build with latest gnome-panel and has 3 open abrt bugs (#606827, #630167, #642911) * gnome-applet-cpufire: Doesn't build with latest gnome-panel, no open bugs, co-maintained by edwintb * gnome-applet-remmina: Replaced by a trayicon in F15 and rawhide, so maintenance is only needed for F13 and F14. No bugs ever. * gnome-applet-timer: Still maintained, still builds and works, co-maintained by tomspur. One abrt bug that was forwarded to the developer (#669519) Please pick them up in packagedb if you are interested. If there are no new owners within two weeks, I will retire the packages. Kind regards, Christoph

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Alt + F2
by Rahul Sundaram 05 Mar '11

05 Mar '11

Hi $subject seems particularly weak in GNOME Shell at the moment. Any plans to enhance it before Fedora 15 release? Something along the lines of GNOME Do/ Kupfer would be nice. Rahul

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Do we care about the GNOME 3 fallback mode?
by Christoph Wickert 04 Mar '11

04 Mar '11

Hi there, I see there is a lot of change going on for gnome-shell but I hardly see any improvements in the fallback mode. I expected the fallback to be the classic desktop I know from GNOME 2.x, but compared to what we had in F14 it is only a small piece and that is broken. Bugs filed against these components don't seem to get any attention. Do we care about the fallback mode? I think we should because it will be the default for a lot of users. So is it worth filing bugs or to set up a tracker bug or are you not going to have time to look after it anyway? Regards, Christoph

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pcsc-lite
by Jóhann B. Guðmundsson 03 Mar '11

03 Mar '11

Had noticed that pcscd failed to start after a default test installation.. Digging into it further revealed # pcscd -f 00000000 hotplug_libhal.c:584:HPRegisterForHotplugEvents() Couldn't obtain list of devices 00000037 pcscdaemon.c:601:main() HPRegisterForHotplugEvents failed so it turnes out it needs hal which we don't install by default and hal is hal not being deprecated? Does anyone have any information on what the future has pcsc-lite and should it not be removed from Gnome installs? JBG

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F15 Alpha RC2 available for desktop validation
by Adam Williamson 02 Mar '11

02 Mar '11

Hey, folks - just a note that Alpha RC2 is now available: http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/15-Alpha.RC2/ and help to fill out the desktop validation tests: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_15_Alpha_RC2_Desktop would be greatly welcome. As always, just follow the instructions in the test cases and record your results in the tables, and let me know if you have any trouble or questions. If anyone's wondering about LXDE, it hasn't been spun yet because gmixer was orphaned; we should sort that out with rel-eng. Thanks everyone! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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