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Add support of the Totem on the Dell Canvas 27
by Benjamin Tissoires 13 Nov '17

13 Nov '17

Hi, The Dell Canvas 27 has a new tool called the Totem[1]. This tool is aimed at popping up a menu right around it and the user can select the desired menu by turning the tool and pushing it (it has an embedded button). Microsoft has a similar one[2] known as the Surface Dial. The one from Microsoft works with BLE so it is possible to use it without an touchscreen (from what I've seen on internet, the menu will pop up in the middle of the screen). I think it would be good for Fedora and Gnome to support such a tool, given that studios are the main target for it. However, this requires quite some effort in all the layers as it is a new type of tool. I started creating a few bug trackers: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511846 (kernel) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511851 (libinput) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511854 (mutter) Feel free to clone those in the respective upstream projects. My guess is that we need changes in the kernel, libinput, wayland and mutter. I might be wrong, please correct me if I am. I think this can be achievable for Fedora 28. Thoughts? Cheers, Benjamin [1] https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/workstations-isv-certified-dell/dell-c… [2] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/accessories/surface-dial

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Re: Add support of the Totem on the Dell Canvas 27
by Peter Hutterer 13 Nov '17

13 Nov '17

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 09:47:27PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > On 10 Nov 2017, at 11:16, Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > The Dell Canvas 27 has a new tool called the Totem[1]. > > This tool is aimed at popping up a menu right around it and the user > > can select the desired menu by turning the tool and pushing it (it has > > an embedded button). > > Apart from the coordinates telling you where it is on screen, what’s the difference with the USB and later BLE versions of the PowerMate: > https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin_PowerMate > https://griffintechnology.com/us/powermate-bluetooth from a user's POV I think that's a rather big difference, same as the difference between an intuos and a cintiq or the indirect/direct touch difference. > > Microsoft has a similar one[2] known as the Surface Dial. The one from > > Microsoft works with BLE so it is possible to use it without an > > touchscreen (from what I've seen on internet, the menu will pop up in > > the middle of the screen). > > I’d be interested in having one of the Griffin or Surface Dial working, so > we can avoid having to change the plumbing that could get a bit too Dell > Canvas specific. (Surface Dial: 87€, PowerMate 92€) > > > I think it would be good for Fedora and Gnome to support such a tool, > > given that studios are the main target for it. > > But do we know whether they’re going to use it? It’s not like you can plop > down about 100€ got the functionality, you also need the huge expensive > tablet to go with it. > > > However, this requires quite some effort in all the layers as it is a > > new type of tool. > > Do we have any way to pass down the physical size of the device, when it’s > on the tablet’s screen? Are the MS and Dell devices interchangeable? (I’m > guessing not) If we have infrastructure for those radial menus, will > we/should we start using them for the dials on Wacom tablets? I can handle this in libinput and pass it down. Fwiw my current way of thinking is to handle this as another tool in the tablet interface, adding extra axes to that for width/height is a trivial API addition. I somewhat rely on the kernel to give me sane data but c'est la vie. Cheers, Peter > > > I started creating a few bug trackers: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511846 (kernel) > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511851 (libinput) > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1511854 (mutter) > > > > Feel free to clone those in the respective upstream projects. > > > > My guess is that we need changes in the kernel, libinput, wayland and > > mutter. I might be wrong, please correct me if I am. > > > > I think this can be achievable for Fedora 28. Thoughts? > > > > Cheers, > > Benjamin > > > > [1] https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/workstations-isv-certified-dell/dell-c… > > [2] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/accessories/surface-dial

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Workstation WG meeting recap 2017-11-06
by Paul W. Frields 06 Nov '17

06 Nov '17

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-11-06/workstation.2… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-11-06/workstation.2… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-11-06/workstation.2… * * * ================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by stickster at 14:01:06 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-11-06/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (stickster, 14:01:11) * Color emoji not in F27 (stickster, 14:05:54) * mcatanzaro noted the comps and package updates have not been picked up, could be due to not having a freeze exception bug filed? (stickster, 14:07:19) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/30#comment-477205 (stickster, 14:07:23) * ACTION: kalev file FE bug to get bodhi update for gnome-themes-standard included (stickster, 14:15:48) * ACTION: stickster talk to Fedora QA to make sure FE bug can be included in next RC (stickster, 14:16:55) * setroubleshooter path forward (stickster, 14:36:36) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/24 (stickster, 14:36:39) * ACTION: stickster talk to cschalle, mgrepl, et al. to see if we can have some time invested to get closer to https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/ProblemReporting (stickster, 14:37:25) * All other business (stickster, 14:38:22) * Please test out the GNOME 3.26.2 megaupdate at https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2017-040483b1f1 (stickster, 14:46:25) Meeting ended at 14:52:20 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kalev file FE bug to get bodhi update for gnome-themes-standard included * stickster talk to Fedora QA to make sure FE bug can be included in next RC * stickster talk to cschalle, mgrepl, et al. to see if we can have some time invested to get closer to https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/ProblemReporting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * cschalle * stickster talk to cschalle, mgrepl, et al. to see if we can have some time invested to get closer to https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/ProblemReporting * kalev * kalev file FE bug to get bodhi update for gnome-themes-standard included * stickster * stickster talk to Fedora QA to make sure FE bug can be included in next RC * stickster talk to cschalle, mgrepl, et al. to see if we can have some time invested to get closer to https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/ProblemReporting * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * stickster (60) * mcatanzaro (29) * zodbot (17) * mattdm (15) * kalev (13) * mclasen (10) * ryanlerch (3) * cschalle (2) * juhp_ (2) * otaylor (1) * juhp (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Workstation WG
by stickster＠gmail.com 04 Nov '17

04 Nov '17

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Workstation WG on 2017-11-06 from 09:00:00 to 10:00:00 America/New_York At fedora-meeting-2(a)irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: Regular meeting for the Workstation Working Group. Agenda: [https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting](https… More information available at: [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation](https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/… Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/6411/

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2017-11-06 @ ** 17:00 ** UTC - Fedora 27 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson 03 Nov '17

03 Nov '17

# F27 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2017-11-06 # Time: ** 17:00 ** UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net Hi folks! We currently have only one proposed freeze exception for Fedora 27. However, in case more blockers show up over the weekend, I'm scheduling a review meeting for Monday; if there aren't any, I'll just run a very quick meeting where we don't do anything. Note that daylight savings time ends in most of North America this weekend, so we'll be changing the meeting time to 17:00 UTC. If daylight savings ends (clocks go back) for you this weekend, the meeting should be at the same local time as always. If you don't observe daylight savings or it ends at a different time, the meeting will be one hour later in your local time than it was last week. If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ . We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F27 can be found on the wiki [0]. For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki: - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting Note that for the special case of the Server release being split from the main release stream for Fedora 27, we have created separate Server blocker tracking bugs and will be following the same basic process for the Server release dates using those trackers. Have a good weekend and see you on Monday! [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Cheese: no longer works with my webcam, other testing requested
by Adam Williamson 02 Nov '17

02 Nov '17

Hi folks! Doing the 'desktop_menus' validation test for Final RC-1.2 - the awful one where you have to run every app on the live image - I just found that Cheese doesn't seem to work with my webcam any more: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508706 it definitely used to, this seems to be a new issue in F27. But it looks a lot like it may be hardware-related, so it'd be great if folks with different webcams could try out Cheese in F27 and report whether it works for them. Please reply to this mail or in the bug. Thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 27 Candidate RC-1.2 Available Now!
by Adam Williamson 01 Nov '17

01 Nov '17

On Wed, 2017-11-01 at 23:19 +0000, rawhide(a)fedoraproject.org wrote: > According to the schedule [1], Fedora 27 Candidate RC-1.2 is now > available for testing. Please help us complete all the validation > testing! For more information on release validation testing, see: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan > > Test coverage information for the current release can be seen at: > https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/27 > > You can see all results, find testing instructions and image download > locations, and enter results on the Summary page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Summary > > The individual test result pages are: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Installation > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Base > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Server > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Cloud > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Desktop > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Security_Lab > > All RC priority test cases for each of these test pages [2] must > pass in order to meet the RC Release Criteria [3]. > > Help is available on #fedora-qa on irc.freenode.net [4], or on the > test list [5]. Hi folks! Just a heads up: this is a genuine Final release candidate, there's a chance we'll decide to ship this tomorrow if there are no release blocking bugs in it. So please, if you can, help run as many validation tests on it as possible - we really need as close to 100% coverage as we can get over the next ~18 hours or so. Thanks very much! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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