On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 18:03 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 05:55 -0400, William Jon McCann wrote:
Hey,
Hi,
For now we want to stay with upstream Clearlooks.
For a while now, I have been wondering what "we" stands for here... The discussion seems to mostly happen off-list.
'We' refers to the design and production "team" for the desktop spin. At the moment, this is mostly me and Jon. Some of the discussion does happen off-list, which is somewhat unfortunate. This tends to occur for a few reasons: * We happen to sit in an office within 10 feet of each other * Design is ideally a high bandwidth activity * We often have impromptu discussions * So we can focus and make some decisions (almost always after talking with upstream, the Fedora community, other smart people from other distributions, etc)
I have tried to keep this list in the loop on potentially controversial changes, such as the GIMP change.
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PS: I'd really like to know who has the formal authority in the desktop design area -- is it the design-team, is it the Desktop SIG for GNOME, KDE SIG for KDE, ... or combination of both? IIRC the switch to Mist (at that time from bluecurve via incomplete Echo) was made by the predecessor to design-team. On the other hand this very discussion seems to be mostly Desktop SIG centered. While I don't have any preference as where the authority should be, I'd like it to be crystal clear... I certainly don't want to have a ping-pong between e.g. design-team switching icon theme to gnome-colors [1][2] while desktop SIG switching it to gnome-icon-theme...
In Fedora, we are not very good at 'crystal clear' and 'formal authority', which sometimes has the unfortunate effect of letting inertia and diverging interests prevail... The closest you will probably get to a 'formal authority' is the first few lines of the kickstart file defining the desktop spin:
# Maintained by the Fedora Desktop SIG: # http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Desktop # mailto:fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com
Matthias