Rastus Vernon píše v Út 12. 01. 2016 v 00:09 -0500:
Debian and other distributions (Trisquel, gNewSense, GuixSD) have used unbranded forks of Firefox for years and I don't think this has been a problem for them. In any case I don't think we can call "drastic" something that multiple other distributions do.
Trisquel, gNewSense, GuixSD are not examples of particularly popular distributions, so not really good examples how the change cannot harm us. They target a pretty small user base which probably mostly appreciate such a policy. Debian is definitely more popular, but I still think our target audience is a bit broader, reaching segments where Debian-based distros are doing much better than Debian itself - Ubuntu, Linux Mint,...
The Debian and GNU projects consider Mozilla Firefox as proprietary software because it does not meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines or GNU's definition of free software. Fedora didn't follow that stance.
Yes, it'd be a bit hypocritical of Fedora to claim this is something bad since Red Hat does the same with RHEL.
I don't think whether we're using a fork or not is important. It'll be just as up-to-date, just as well supported by websites, and would work like Firefox so habbit would not be a problem. The Firefox name and branding is a problem for Fedora (it prevents us from modifying the browser), not a benefit.
I disagree. As I already mentioned earlier in this discussion, Firefox is one of the strongest brands in open source. Using artificial brands instead of well-established ones won't do us any good as I think it has never really benefited Debian. Normal users don't understand it and see it as uncalled for.
Jiri