On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 04:09:14PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Kalev Lember kalevlember@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/04/2014 01:52 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
I disagree. We aren't targeting people that find virtualization to be a confusing concept. Workstation is targeting developers and students with a reasonable degree of technical competence. I believe working virt out of the box should be installed.
No, sorry, you might have misunderstood the PRD. We aren't producing a distro only for developers. We are still producing a general purpose OS but we are focusing our own development effort more on making it easier to use Workstation for development.
There's nothing in what I said that precludes a general purpose OS. On the contrary, it's required for anything above and beyond that.
We had this discussion already when approving the PRD. There were concerns that people might misunderstand the wording there to mean that we are no longer supporting the general desktop user. No; the PRD only enumerates areas we'll give special focus during development and is not meant to say that those are the only supported use cases.
And this is where you and I differ. I consider virtualization an important enough thing for the areas we're giving special focus to be installed by default. You, apparently, do not. That's a difference of opinion between you and I, not a fundamental misunderstanding of the overall goal on my part.
If you would like, we could certainly put this to a vote in the WG. I may very well be alone in my desire for virt to work out of the box. If we could actually get the WG to vote on it, I'll be happy to shut up either way. I'm interested in making progress, not endless debates.
It certainly seems like it should be there by default. A common use case I see among developers is testing deployment of code or apps on other platforms. I thought this was one of the motivations behind e.g. GNOME Boxes.