On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Pete Travis lists@petetravis.com wrote:
This seems like [another] case of "we want to show all available desktop files without filters, but that looks cluttered, so all other packages should change so we don't have to add filters." I appreciate the work you're putting into the details on the default install, really, but as has often been pointed out it will be really easy to gain that clutter back with Software. Two things can change here; *all* packages shipping desktop files, or the *one* displaying them.
If your criticism can't be constructive, don't say anything.
That said, users *should* have Release Notes, by default, offline, and discoverable. Fedora changes a lot between releases, and I sincerely believe that taking the extra measures to expose users to this documentation helps alleviate frustration and prevents dissatisfaction when something doesn't work as expected. What seems obvious in context isn't always so apparent to those on the outside of your process. A measurable portion of users will look for the reasoning and recommended remedies for unexpected things they encounter.
No other operation system comes with the release notes bundled with the OS. This is not really a thing users *expect*.
Not everyone will simply think "oh, I can install that firewall config tool with Software, I'm just going to accept that and not question it or look for more information." Some will look for RNs, some will look for speculative forum posts, some will look for blog posts, and some will look for *you* to *personally justify* your actions. Our goal is to provide all of these people the information they need to understand the behavior they encounter and achieve the behavior they want. It's a service provided by the Docs team to both users *and* developers. The benefits outweigh the pain of having an icon that you aren't that interested in.
I don't understand what's the problem with having the release notes available on the web and linked to in the download page and in the support page.
As a maintainer of that package, I'd welcome specific suggestions or requests to improve presentation.
Few options: * Instead of installing a launcher, make it available in gnome-documents or yelp. You can separate the launcher to a subpackage for desktops that don't care about the application model or having a consistent user experience. * Do nothing. We can exclude the release notes from the Workstation media. It will still be available in the web.