On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Chris Murphy lists@colorremedies.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:11 AM, Matthew Miller mattdm@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 05:51:02PM +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote:
conversation with Kamil Paral today: Wayland has not been proposed as a change for Fedora 25 and no one outside the workstation group knows it's still a plan unless they follow our mailing list closely. Fedora QA doesn't test Wayland, Wayland test cases are not part of test matrices and so forth. Now for the rest of the Fedora Project we're going with X11 for F25 and Wayland is still just the experimental thingy. To make it default it needs to go through thorough testing by the QA team and it needs to be part of test matrices.
We really _do_ need to go through the proper process here. Please remember, Fedora is a huge project with hundreds of active contributors, and this isn't just mere bureaucracy. We require the coordination in order to continue to produce the reoccuring miracle that is a functioning Fedora release.
I'm excited as anyone for the new features and improvements Wayland brings to the table, but let's do it right.
If someone wants to file a FESCo ticket to get it approved as a late change, I think that's reasonable. But tomorrow is go/no-go and I think it's at least as risky to flip back to Xorg by default as it is to leave Wayland the default; and no doubt FESCo would take QA's opinion on the late change into account but this lateness I think is pretty minor compared to some of the late changes that have happened in the past.
Since it's no go, there's a good chance filing a ticket sometime today means it gets reviewed by FESCo at this Friday's meeting. Ideally the WG would not have deferred the Wayland question to next week's WG meeting. But a FESCo ticket could at least resolve whether the change would be accepted should the WG decide next week to proceed with Wayland by default; or if it's simply too late now and must be postponed to Fedora 26.
I'm with sgallagh on this, rip off the bandaid. But that's not one of the official process options.