Hi,
sorry for cross-posting but I wanted all interested parties to not miss this email ;-)
There has been some media related discussion in the -devel list and one of the points I have taken form it is that we should promote FLOSS multimedia and don't blame others for doing it (even if it's done in a not ideal way)... Now, the problem is that the actual support of these in our system is crappy. Out of the combinations of two FLOSS containers (matroska and ogg) and two FLOSS video codecs (dirac and theora) I know only one (ogg + theora) actually works in xine-lib (used by KDE4) which is pathetic.
So I created a wiki page (not sure what name space to use, so I put it under my user page for starters) [1] which tracks the situation. I don't have much time lately due to university duties, so I put there only things I know of and didn't researched further. So if you know of any FLOSS container, video or audio codec, feel free to add it there. Also feel free to reference upstream bugs about the mentioned issues. The videos used for reference testing are available at my fedora people page [2].
Thanks, Martin
References: [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mso/Open_Multimedia [2] http://mso.fedorapeople.org/codecs-test/
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 23:43 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
Hi,
sorry for cross-posting but I wanted all interested parties to not miss this email ;-)
There has been some media related discussion in the -devel list and one of the points I have taken form it is that we should promote FLOSS multimedia and don't blame others for doing it (even if it's done in a not ideal way)... Now, the problem is that the actual support of these in our system is crappy. Out of the combinations of two FLOSS containers (matroska and ogg) and two FLOSS video codecs (dirac and theora) I know only one (ogg + theora) actually works in xine-lib (used by KDE4) which is pathetic.
So I created a wiki page (not sure what name space to use, so I put it under my user page for starters) [1] which tracks the situation. I don't have much time lately due to university duties, so I put there only things I know of and didn't researched further. So if you know of any FLOSS container, video or audio codec, feel free to add it there. Also feel free to reference upstream bugs about the mentioned issues. The videos used for reference testing are available at my fedora people page [2].
I think you're missing the biggest part of the problem, filing bugs.
Cheers
On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 09:44 +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 23:43 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote:
Hi,
sorry for cross-posting but I wanted all interested parties to not miss this email ;-)
There has been some media related discussion in the -devel list and one of the points I have taken form it is that we should promote FLOSS multimedia and don't blame others for doing it (even if it's done in a not ideal way)... Now, the problem is that the actual support of these in our system is crappy. Out of the combinations of two FLOSS containers (matroska and ogg) and two FLOSS video codecs (dirac and theora) I know only one (ogg + theora) actually works in xine-lib (used by KDE4) which is pathetic.
So I created a wiki page (not sure what name space to use, so I put it under my user page for starters) [1] which tracks the situation. I don't have much time lately due to university duties, so I put there only things I know of and didn't researched further. So if you know of any FLOSS container, video or audio codec, feel free to add it there. Also feel free to reference upstream bugs about the mentioned issues. The videos used for reference testing are available at my fedora people page [2].
I think you're missing the biggest part of the problem, filing bugs.
I've already filled bug in xine-lib's bugzilla about matroska+theora support [1], so long ago that I even forgot I did so... I'm going to try the rest in rawhide first (according to dirac compatibility matrix [2] some of these should be fixed by now).
Cheers
Martin References: [1] http://bugs.xine-project.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159 [2] http://diracvideo.org/wiki/index.php/Dirac_Compatibility_Matrix
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