When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7.
Isn't moving so many, apparently useful features into non default plugins diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7.
Isn't moving so many, apparently useful features into non default plugins diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
Not moving. Adding.
Rahul
On 5/15/07, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7.
Isn't moving so many, apparently useful features into non default plugins diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
Not moving. Adding.
Thanks for the correction, but my question still stands.
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On 5/15/07, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7.
Isn't moving so many, apparently useful features into non default plugins diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
Not moving. Adding.
Thanks for the correction, but my question still stands.
No. It doesn't. Adding new features as plugins cannot possibly dilute the effectiveness of yum. Removing features might but that depends on the feature. For example, earlier versions of yum had a feature that displays rss feeds that got moved into a separate utility.
Rahul
On 5/15/07, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On 5/15/07, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7.
Isn't moving so many, apparently useful features into non default plugins diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
Not moving. Adding.
Thanks for the correction, but my question still stands.
No. It doesn't. Adding new features as plugins cannot possibly dilute the effectiveness of yum. Removing features might but that depends on the feature. For example, earlier versions of yum had a feature that displays rss feeds that got moved into a separate utility.
Rahul
Plugins are nice, I like them. I was referring to "non default plugins" as in those very nice plugins that aren't in by default, and require knowledge of their existence (generally) to get to.
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
Plugins are nice, I like them. I was referring to "non default plugins" as in those very nice plugins that aren't in by default, and require knowledge of their existence (generally) to get to.
We can't install every single plugin yum plugin by default. What you find useful is not what others find useful. Every single non-default packages requires knowledge about that to install them. That is not a yum specific issue. If you want to make the functionality more visible one solution is to document them better. I wanted to publish a new guide for Fedora 7 but have got little help so far. Want to contribute?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs/Drafts/SoftwareManagementGuide
Rahul
On 5/16/07, Arthur Pemberton pemboa@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/15/07, Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7.
Isn't moving so many, apparently useful features into non default plugins diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
Not moving. Adding.
Thanks for the correction, but my question still stands.
Can I correct yout question?
Is the decision not to including some "best" plugins by default diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
Can I correct your question?
Is the decision not to including some "best" plugins by default diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
On 5/16/07, Valent Turkovic valent.turkovic@gmail.com wrote:
Can I correct your question?
Sure, why not.
Is the decision not to including some "best" plugins by default diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
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On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 19:40 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
When you use yum, you can use this yum plugin to only install security updates. This works for Core Packages in FC6 and all in F7.
Isn't moving so many, apparently useful features into non default plugins diluting the apparent effectiveness of yum?
One thing that's had a little bit of discussion on yum-devel is looking through plugins and seeing if any of them make sense to be included by default or integrated into the core of yum over the next little bit. Overall, I'm not opposed to making some of them installed and enabled by default (for F8), but it's a case by case discussion
Jeremy
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