“Case 4” in the Product Description is the most important for me. The is where I work in a university, but I know some commercial orgs that work similarly. My developers are writing code and analyzing data. They are not building or contributing to Fedora. Key tools are C, C++, python, R, Matlab, Octave, plus git and svn.
We use enterprise logins (ldap + MIT krb5). Desktops are NFS clients, data is stored on file servers. Desktops often have multiple displays.
Desktops are professionally managed. The level of developer admin is going to vary based on the organization. Generally the developer isn’t installing the workstation. Home directories are centrally stored and preserved across updates.
In summary: * enterprise logins (large numbers of users and groups) * network filesystems (NFS, SMB, etc..) * centralized network and desktop management (lots of great tools exist)
Cheers, Jimmy
2013/11/6 Jimmy Dorff jdorff@phy.duke.edu
“Case 4” in the Product Description is the most important for me. The is where I work in a university, but I know some commercial orgs that work similarly. My developers are writing code and analyzing data. They are not building or contributing to Fedora. Key tools are C, C++, python, R, Matlab, Octave, plus git and svn.
Yes, this is importtant to me also. This is what seems closer to how workstations are used for scientific research. Tools for analysing data (R, Python, Perl, gnuplot, octave; also Matlab and IDL) and writing research papers (latex). With less interest in having the latest desktop and more interest in robustness, particullary in the tools used to do the work.
Regards, Sergio
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Sergio Pascual wrote:
Yes, this is importtant to me also. This is what seems closer to how workstations are used for scientific research. Tools for analysing data (R, Python, Perl, gnuplot, octave; also Matlab and IDL) and writing research papers (latex). With less interest in having the latest desktop and more interest in robustness, particullary in the tools used to do the work.
We've tried EL desktops, but for my users the tools are just too old. Fedora is a much better fit. I do have colleagues who rebuild vast numbers of packages from Fedora for EL to try to make it a better desktop.
Cheers, Jimmy
Hi,
On Thu, 2013-11-07 at 12:34 -0500, Jimmy Dorff wrote:
We've tried EL desktops, but for my users the tools are just too old. Fedora is a much better fit. I do have colleagues who rebuild vast numbers of packages from Fedora for EL to try to make it a better desktop.
If you have access to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, you might try: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolset...
On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Colin Walters wrote:
If you have access to Red Hat Enterprise Linux, you might try: https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolset...
Yeap, we have used that. It doesn't help with things like inkscape however (just one example).
Cheers, Jimmy
Hi Jimmy, First of all thank you Jimmy for providing this feedback, any help you and others can provide to help us build the requirements list for the various usecases is great. I will make sure to take your points with me as part of the continued working group effort and tasklist.
Christian
On Wed, 2013-11-06 at 15:32 -0500, Jimmy Dorff wrote:
“Case 4” in the Product Description is the most important for me. The is where I work in a university, but I know some commercial orgs that work similarly. My developers are writing code and analyzing data. They are not building or contributing to Fedora. Key tools are C, C++, python, R, Matlab, Octave, plus git and svn.
We use enterprise logins (ldap + MIT krb5). Desktops are NFS clients, data is stored on file servers. Desktops often have multiple displays.
Desktops are professionally managed. The level of developer admin is going to vary based on the organization. Generally the developer isn’t installing the workstation. Home directories are centrally stored and preserved across updates.
In summary:
- enterprise logins (large numbers of users and groups)
- network filesystems (NFS, SMB, etc..)
- centralized network and desktop management (lots of great tools exist)
Cheers, Jimmy
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