The Workstation WG meeting is scheduled for this Wednesday, 2016-Apr-16 at 1400 UTC (10:00 EDT, 15:00 CET). This agenda is open for additions/corrections; please send by tomorrow at 23:59 UTC.
* Outcome/follow-ups from initial meeting regarding rel-eng work * Third party software policy next steps * rpm-ostree workstation next steps
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 05:40:52PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
The Workstation WG meeting is scheduled for this Wednesday, 2016-Apr-16 at 1400 UTC (10:00 EDT, 15:00 CET). This agenda is open for additions/corrections; please send by tomorrow at 23:59 UTC.
I realized we might want a checkpoint on this F24 Change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LUCasPrimaryDownloadable
I invited Jiří, so to respect his time let's run that first.
- Outcome/follow-ups from initial meeting regarding rel-eng work
- Third party software policy next steps
- rpm-ostree workstation next steps
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 05:40:52PM -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
The Workstation WG meeting is scheduled for this Wednesday, 2016-Apr-16 at 1400 UTC (10:00 EDT, 15:00 CET). This agenda is open for additions/corrections; please send by tomorrow at 23:59 UTC.
I realized we might want a checkpoint on this F24 Change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LUCasPrimaryDownloadable
I invited Jiří, so to respect his time let's run that first.
FYI the date 2016-Apr-16 above is Saturday.
For LUC/FMW as primary, some questions for marketing/web design in particular -> there are a bunch of questions what the web site link(s) should look like and how they should behave. I'm kinda concerned about what actual thing is going to be downloaded by various users, while depending only on their UA for identification. Or if instead they're going to see a list of downloads by platform and version of that platform?
What deliverable do Fedora 22 and 22 users get? Are they redirected to Gnome Software? Do they get an RPM specific to their version of Fedora?
What deliverable do other Linux distros get? ISO? Some kind of 'any distro' tarball of the tool?
What deliverable do OS X users get? Since the OS X version of the tool reportedly will not happen until Fedora 25, presumably the deliverable is an ISO.
At the moment it sounds like the most identifiable platform and deliverable for FMW is Windows 7, 8, 10. What about XP and Vista? What do they get? Presumably ISO?
Anyway, the marketing and web folks probably need to be brought into the discussion about what the user facing experience is going to look like. Or even, what it can look like. At the moment it almost seems like it's possible FMW is the primary deliverable for Windows, and everyone else is still going to get a ISO?
There's a test day scheduled for next Tuesday April 19, which also happens to be freeze day. More will be known about the test coverage after that, but it might be helpful if the WG suggests the testing emphasis and scope so that the WG can better make a readiness decision on this feature. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/483
On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 15:59 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I realized we might want a checkpoint on this F24 Change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LUCasPrimaryDownloadable
I tried out the LUC COPR the other day... it looks like it has a way to go before I would support this as the primary download.
Pros:
* Uses polkit * Clearly on the right track UI-wise * Much easier to use than an ISO file
Cons:
* Qt Adwaita theme still has too many rough edges * Notably, no scrollbar prelight * Back and Create Live USB buttons float awkwardly over content * Missing symbolic app icon * Missing app menu * Still displays confusing technical terminology (dd, MBR, 32/64 bit) * These options should be removed
I'm supportive of work towards LUC as the primary downloadable, but it doesn't feel ready for F24. This is the first impression we make as a distro, so it has to be really good!
Michael
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