Hi, current rawhide and Empathy client show great promise as it adds audio and video conference options.
But one thing that Fedora users are used to have, IRC chat, seams like it is not supported and not working in current version of Empathy.
Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way?
After installing telepathy-idle I see no difference.Am I doing something wrong? Also why isn't telepathy-idle installed as a dependency or at leas by default with empathy?
Cheers.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:40:47PM +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote:
Hi, current rawhide and Empathy client show great promise as it adds audio and video conference options.
But one thing that Fedora users are used to have, IRC chat, seams like it is not supported and not working in current version of Empathy.
Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way?
This is a fair point, since we do have live help channels on IRC and not some other sort of messaging standard right now. The telepathy-idle package is 166KB according to yum info. Does this present a problem?
After installing telepathy-idle I see no difference.Am I doing something wrong? Also why isn't telepathy-idle installed as a dependency or at leas by default with empathy?
I don't understand this part of the post. I have installed telepathy-idle and IRC works on Empathy here on my Rawhide system.
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:29:24 -0600, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I don't understand this part of the post. I have installed telepathy-idle and IRC works on Empathy here on my Rawhide system.
I added irc.freenode.net as IRC server but I get an error when trying to connect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
On 10/11/2009 08:46 PM, Valent Turkovic wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:29:24 -0600, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I don't understand this part of the post. I have installed telepathy-idle and IRC works on Empathy here on my Rawhide system.
I added irc.freenode.net as IRC server but I get an error when trying to connect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
What error is that? Do you require a proxy to connect online by any chance?
Rahul
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turkovic@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:29:24 -0600, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I don't understand this part of the post. I have installed telepathy-idle and IRC works on Empathy here on my Rawhide system.
I added irc.freenode.net as IRC server but I get an error when trying to connect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
Well telling us what the error is would make answering this question easier ;)
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 17:18:03 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Well telling us what the error is would make answering this question easier
In command line there is no error, just in GUI, it says that it can't connect. I'm not using any proxy, I have a regular ADSL line and I'm behind a NAT.
I'll check out what is the exact error and provide a screenshot.
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 15:16 +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:29:24 -0600, Paul W. Frields wrote:
I don't understand this part of the post. I have installed telepathy-idle and IRC works on Empathy here on my Rawhide system.
I added irc.freenode.net as IRC server but I get an error when trying to connect. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
It's not this bug is it?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528038
Zack
On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:56:32 -0400, Zack Cerza wrote:
It's not this bug is it?
Yes, it look like this is the bug I stepped onto also. Thanks, I looked a bit stupid, you saved me :)
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 22:29 -0600, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:40:47PM +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote:
Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way?
This is a fair point, since we do have live help channels on IRC and not some other sort of messaging standard right now. The telepathy-idle package is 166KB according to yum info. Does this present a problem?
No,the reason we didn't have a requires on tp-idle is that at the time (I think this was around the F10 timeframe, but I could be wrong) we didn't feel that it was ready to be installed by default. If folks feel we should add the requires, I've got no problem with that.
Later, /B
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 16:09 -0400, Brian Pepple wrote:
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 22:29 -0600, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:40:47PM +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote:
Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way?
This is a fair point, since we do have live help channels on IRC and not some other sort of messaging standard right now. The telepathy-idle package is 166KB according to yum info. Does this present a problem?
No,the reason we didn't have a requires on tp-idle is that at the time (I think this was around the F10 timeframe, but I could be wrong) we didn't feel that it was ready to be installed by default. If folks feel we should add the requires, I've got no problem with that.
I think we do have some nominal irc support via telepathy-haze, but it is probably better to pull in -idle.
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 04:09:37PM -0400, Brian Pepple wrote:
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 22:29 -0600, Paul W. Frields wrote:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:40:47PM +0000, Valent Turkovic wrote:
Are Fedora developers aware of that? Is there some fallback plan to include IRC support in default Fedora Desktop spin in some other way?
This is a fair point, since we do have live help channels on IRC and not some other sort of messaging standard right now. The telepathy-idle package is 166KB according to yum info. Does this present a problem?
No,the reason we didn't have a requires on tp-idle is that at the time (I think this was around the F10 timeframe, but I could be wrong) we didn't feel that it was ready to be installed by default. If folks feel we should add the requires, I've got no problem with that.
I think the point that our default desktop should include a working IRC client is a valid one, seeing as how IRC is one of our primary methods of community support.
I've been able to use telepathy-idle successfully. I removed my existing GConf keys and ~/.config/Empathy folders to try to experience defaults for a new user. I was able to connect to FreeNode using the dropdown list, join a channel, and send and receive messages properly.
Brian, you may want to check to see if old settings from F10/F11 Empathy may interfere with current Empathy, and if so, how to deal with them. I support making this part of the F12 requires if possible. A change will require appropriate rel-eng ticketing and so forth.
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