Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:00:30 -0700 From: Michael Knepher mknepher@bluethingy.com Subject: Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
Ops, sorry about that one...
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On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 12:05 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:50:09 -0400 From: David Malcolm dmalcolm@redhat.com
Currently Evolution 1.5.* stores its data (contacts, calendar, email etc) below the ~/.evolution directory and in GConf, and makes various assumptions about the layout of the ~/.evolution directory. Evolution could be changed to follow this proposal for "local contacts" (as opposed to contacts found on e.g. a shared corporate LDAP database), but it'd be non-trivial.
What? How do i transfer my mail that is currently in my evo folder? I dont want to loose it!
Only thing kept in .evolution before was passwords and mailservers
The new Evolution will import all your old mail, contacts, calendar items, etc., on first startup.
How? Just copy the evo folder into my ~? What will then happen to my evolution-folder? Just imported and then never touched again?
Another point: Webbrowsing. Today FC uses moz - which has a nice engine etc. But Epiphany is still better integrated with Gnome (and no difference when talking HTML engine): Why not use this as the standard web-browser instead?
Check out some of the newer builds of mozilla - there's a lot of gtk2 integration going in that makes it fit in the desktop better appearance- wise. Here's a screenshot showing mozilla using the gtk+2.4 file chooser: http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings/images/mozilla_pango.png
That is good. Even if i can't se the big diff. Cant read that language anyway :)
Only prob. as far as i can see, is that neither moz or epiphany has a user-friendly way to select which printer you want to use. Whic is... BAD!
For epiphany, it should be a fairly simple matter. I'm not sure what's involved with getting mozilla/firefox to use the new print system.
What new print system? CUPS? It is really un-user-friendly the way it is now. Even KDE does better than that! (joke, not flamebait). But i still cant see why we are using moz not epiphany (apart from being completely unpronounceable, and the word also un-understandable...)? Decision-makers: please answer (or somebody else who knows the truth)
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 19:43 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
The new Evolution will import all your old mail, contacts, calendar items, etc., on first startup.
How? Just copy the evo folder into my ~? What will then happen to my evolution-folder? Just imported and then never touched again?
More or less. I gather the internal layout is different in the two directories, so it's not just a simple copy of the directory.
Only prob. as far as i can see, is that neither moz or epiphany has a user-friendly way to select which printer you want to use. Whic is... BAD!
For epiphany, it should be a fairly simple matter. I'm not sure what's involved with getting mozilla/firefox to use the new print system.
What new print system? CUPS? It is really un-user-friendly the way it is now. Even KDE does better than that! (joke, not flamebait).
Cups is still the backend, but it's being integrated with dbus to provide better usability. A screenshot of the new print dialog is attached. Very close to KDE's.
But i still cant see why we are using moz not epiphany (apart from being completely unpronounceable, and the word also un-understandable...)? Decision-makers: please answer (or somebody else who knows the truth)
That I don't know.
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 19:43 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:00:30 -0700 From: Michael Knepher mknepher@bluethingy.com Subject: Re: Fedora-desktop-list Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11
Ops, sorry about that one...
To: Discussions about development for the Fedora desktop fedora-desktop-list@redhat.com Message-ID: 1092412830.20259.13.camel@lionel-hutz.darnell.group Content-Type: text/plain
On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 12:05 +0200, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 12:50:09 -0400 From: David Malcolm dmalcolm@redhat.com
Currently Evolution 1.5.* stores its data (contacts, calendar, email etc) below the ~/.evolution directory and in GConf, and makes various assumptions about the layout of the ~/.evolution directory. Evolution could be changed to follow this proposal for "local contacts" (as opposed to contacts found on e.g. a shared corporate LDAP database), but it'd be non-trivial.
What? How do i transfer my mail that is currently in my evo folder? I dont want to loose it!
Only thing kept in .evolution before was passwords and mailservers
The new Evolution will import all your old mail, contacts, calendar items, etc., on first startup.
How? Just copy the evo folder into my ~? What will then happen to my evolution-folder? Just imported and then never touched again?
What I did was to copy my "~/evolution" directory to a "~/not_evolution", and then ran Evolution 1.5. It successfully created a new "~/.evolution" directory containing the same information in a new format. I believe it didn't touch the old directory afterwards, and after using the Evolution 1.5 for a week or so I moved "~/evolution" and "~/not_evolution" into a "backups" directory.
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Dave
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