Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 01:28 +0800, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
Package: compizconfig-python-0.6.0-1.fc8 , ccsm-0.6.0-3.fc8 Request description: Inclusion into Fedora 8 final
Rationale: Compiz Fusion has been one of the major attraction to Linux lately, and with Ubuntu already providing CF out of the box, users will expect other distros to have it too. There no full featured configurator for current compiz-fusion in F-8.
Impact not accepting: Users will have to use gconf-editor to configure compiz-fusion manually. Marketing value might be affected.
Others: current compiz in F-8 uses 'glib gconf' as its configuration backend, if FedoraProject decided to use libcompizconfig as the configuration backend, changes are needed in desktop-effects and /usr/bin/gnome-wm to load 'ccp' plugin instead of 'glib gconf'. CCSM requires compiz to use 'ccp' for it to function properly.
+1
Spot, did you notice that this requires changes to desktop-effects and gnome-session? It sounds like they expect it to be part of the default install, not just an add-on to the compiz of today. Is the desktop team aware and in agreement with these changes?
Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com
On Wed, 2007-10-24 at 15:51 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
Spot, did you notice that this requires changes to desktop-effects and gnome-session? It sounds like they expect it to be part of the default install, not just an add-on to the compiz of today. Is the desktop team aware and in agreement with these changes?
No and no
On 10/24/07, Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com wrote:
Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 01:28 +0800, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
Package: compizconfig-python-0.6.0-1.fc8 , ccsm-0.6.0-3.fc8 Request description: Inclusion into Fedora 8 final
Rationale: Compiz Fusion has been one of the major attraction to Linux lately, and with Ubuntu already providing CF out of the box, users will expect other distros to have it too. There no full featured configurator for current compiz-fusion in F-8.
Impact not accepting: Users will have to use gconf-editor to configure compiz-fusion manually. Marketing value might be affected.
Others: current compiz in F-8 uses 'glib gconf' as its configuration backend, if FedoraProject decided to use libcompizconfig as the configuration backend, changes are needed in desktop-effects and /usr/bin/gnome-wm to load 'ccp' plugin instead of 'glib gconf'. CCSM requires compiz to use 'ccp' for it to function properly.
+1
Spot, did you notice that this requires changes to desktop-effects and gnome-session? It sounds like they expect it to be part of the default install, not just an add-on to the compiz of today. Is the desktop team aware and in agreement with these changes?
This has come up before, and while it would be nice to have a more capable configuration program for compiz the current libcompizconfig is not the right solution. Ideally we would have a configuration application per desktop environment and the GNOME configurator would just talk to gconf directly, similarly for the KDE configurator.
If somebody wants to write a settings manager that works with several DEs, I think the burden is on the settings manager to talk to the different configuration systems it wants to operate under. Or this could be part of libcompizconfig, so that setting managers that want to be DE-agnostic can just link to this library and not worry about the underlying config mechanism in use.
The current compiz setup is compatible with the above scheme, somebody just need to do the necessary libcompizconfig adjustments.
thanks, Kristiani
On 10/25/07, Kristian Høgsberg krh@bitplanet.net wrote:
On 10/24/07, Warren Togami wtogami@redhat.com wrote:
Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
On Thu, 2007-10-25 at 01:28 +0800, Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail wrote:
Package: compizconfig-python-0.6.0-1.fc8 , ccsm-0.6.0-3.fc8 Request description: Inclusion into Fedora 8 final
Rationale:
Compiz Fusion has been one of the major attraction to Linux lately,
and with Ubuntu already providing CF out of the box, users will expect other distros to have it too. There no full featured configurator for current compiz-fusion in F-8.
Impact not accepting: Users will have to use gconf-editor to configure compiz-fusion manually. Marketing value might be affected.
Others: current compiz in F-8 uses 'glib gconf' as its configuration backend, if FedoraProject decided to use libcompizconfig as the configuration backend, changes are needed in desktop-effects and /usr/bin/gnome-wm to load 'ccp' plugin instead of 'glib gconf'. CCSM requires compiz to use 'ccp' for it to function properly.
+1
Spot, did you notice that this requires changes to desktop-effects and gnome-session? It sounds like they expect it to be part of the default install, not just an add-on to the compiz of today. Is the desktop team aware and in agreement with these changes?
This has come up before, and while it would be nice to have a more capable configuration program for compiz the current libcompizconfig is not the right solution. Ideally we would have a configuration application per desktop environment and the GNOME configurator would just talk to gconf directly, similarly for the KDE configurator.
If somebody wants to write a settings manager that works with several DEs, I think the burden is on the settings manager to talk to the different configuration systems it wants to operate under. Or this could be part of libcompizconfig, so that setting managers that want to be DE-agnostic can just link to this library and not worry about the underlying config mechanism in use.
The current compiz setup is compatible with the above scheme, somebody just need to do the necessary libcompizconfig adjustments.
Thanks Kristian for the input ..
compizconfig-backend-gconf-0.6.0-2.fc8 has just been built in koji (i couldnt build it before due to waiting for libcompizconfig-0.6.0-3.fc8 to get into the buildroot) .. if we include that together on F-8 , it will be running properly on GNOME according to your plans right?
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