Hi.
Due to some changes in the past (anaconda requires zenity requires yelp requires firefox / wallpaper is now in gnome-backgrounds which requires desktop-backgrounds-basic) the size of the kde livecd is exploding. I think the easiest way of saving some space is to remove some fonts. But I need some help with this to not remove some essential fonts for some people.
The included fonts atm are:
bitmap-fonts cjkunifonts-ukai cjkunifonts-uming dejavu-lgc-fonts fontconfig fonts-arabic fonts-bengali fonts-chinese fonts-gujarati fonts-hebrew fonts-hebrew-fancy fonts-hindi fonts-ISO8859-2 fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi fonts-japanese fonts-kannada fonts-KOI8-R fonts-KOI8-R-100dpi fonts-KOI8-R-75dpi fonts-korean fonts-malayalam fonts-oriya fonts-punjabi fonts-sinhala fonts-tamil fonts-telugu fonts-truetype-apl fonts-x11-apl ghostscript-fonts jomolhari-fonts liberation-fonts libfontenc libXfont libXfontcache sazanami-fonts-gothic sazanami-fonts-mincho urw-fonts xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-misc xorg-x11-fonts-truetype xorg-x11-fonts-Type1 xorg-x11-font-utils
Suggestions?
Sebastian
P.S.: The full package list of my actual version is listed here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SebastianVahl/CurrentPackageList
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 11:55 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
Hi.
Due to some changes in the past (anaconda requires zenity requires yelp requires firefox / wallpaper is now in gnome-backgrounds which requires desktop-backgrounds-basic) the size of the kde livecd is exploding. I think the easiest way of saving some space is to remove some fonts. But I need some help with this to not remove some essential fonts for some people.
I think it would be better to investigate these problematic dependencies and see what we can do about them. Some of them sound very fixable.
Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 11:55 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
Hi.
Due to some changes in the past (anaconda requires zenity requires yelp requires firefox / wallpaper is now in gnome-backgrounds which requires desktop-backgrounds-basic) the size of the kde livecd is exploding...
I think it would be better to investigate these problematic dependencies and see what we can do about them. Some of them sound very fixable.
Agreed.
Re: anaconda -> ... -> firefox, I thought this had been resolved? Re: gnome-backgrounds: what wallpaper in there (now) that kde needs?
-- Rex
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 09:41 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) said:
Re: anaconda -> ... -> firefox, I thought this had been resolved? Re: gnome-backgrounds: what wallpaper in there (now) that kde needs?
Don't know about *gnome*-backgrounds, but the new infinity artwork is in desktop-backgrounds-basic.
I'm still waiting for Ray to send a mail about his artwork package reorganization...
Part of that is creating a separate infinity-backgrounds package.
Am Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:13:09 -0500 schrieb Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu:
Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 11:55 +0200, Sebastian Vahl wrote:
Hi.
Due to some changes in the past (anaconda requires zenity requires yelp requires firefox / wallpaper is now in gnome-backgrounds which requires desktop-backgrounds-basic) the size of the kde livecd is exploding...
I think it would be better to investigate these problematic dependencies and see what we can do about them. Some of them sound very fixable.
Agreed.
Re: anaconda -> ... -> firefox, I thought this had been resolved?
Yeah, I've thought so, too. In one spin I've created (just before the sig meeting where I mentioned this) firefox was gone. So I've thought it this issue was resolved. But the next day it was back. So maybe I was too blind to see it.
Re: gnome-backgrounds: what wallpaper in there (now) that kde needs?
/usr/share/backgrounds/images/default.png is now (or atm) just a symlink to /usr/share/backgrounds/infinity/am00.png.
default.png is in desktop-backgrounds-basic, am00.png was in gnome-backgrounds - now it is also in deskop-backgrounds-basic. But kdesktop fails about the symlink: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=290571
Sebastian
Sebastian Vahl wrote:
Hi.
Due to some changes in the past (anaconda requires zenity requires yelp requires firefox / wallpaper is now in gnome-backgrounds which requires desktop-backgrounds-basic) the size of the kde livecd is exploding. I think the easiest way of saving some space is to remove some fonts. But I need some help with this to not remove some essential fonts for some people.
Heck, since we make no bones about the fact that kde-livecd is English only, most of the following could be candidates for omission:
cjkunifonts-ukai cjkunifonts-uming fonts-arabic fonts-bengali fonts-chinese fonts-gujarati fonts-hebrew fonts-hebrew-fancy fonts-hindi fonts-ISO8859-2 fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi fonts-japanese fonts-kannada fonts-KOI8-R fonts-KOI8-R-100dpi fonts-KOI8-R-75dpi fonts-korean fonts-malayalam fonts-oriya fonts-punjabi fonts-sinhala fonts-tamil fonts-telugu fonts-truetype-apl fonts-x11-apl jomolhari-fonts sazanami-fonts-gothic sazanami-fonts-mincho
Am Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:09:53 -0500 schrieb Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu:
Sebastian Vahl wrote:
Hi.
Due to some changes in the past (anaconda requires zenity requires yelp requires firefox / wallpaper is now in gnome-backgrounds which requires desktop-backgrounds-basic) the size of the kde livecd is exploding. I think the easiest way of saving some space is to remove some fonts. But I need some help with this to not remove some essential fonts for some people.
Heck, since we make no bones about the fact that kde-livecd is English only, most of the following could be candidates for omission:
cjkunifonts-ukai cjkunifonts-uming fonts-arabic fonts-bengali fonts-chinese fonts-gujarati fonts-hebrew fonts-hebrew-fancy fonts-hindi fonts-ISO8859-2 fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi fonts-japanese fonts-kannada fonts-KOI8-R fonts-KOI8-R-100dpi fonts-KOI8-R-75dpi fonts-korean fonts-malayalam fonts-oriya fonts-punjabi fonts-sinhala fonts-tamil fonts-telugu fonts-truetype-apl fonts-x11-apl jomolhari-fonts sazanami-fonts-gothic sazanami-fonts-mincho
So would it be a safe option to remove this fonts? Or does this maybe affect people using some of this fonts if they want to watch a website in this language?
Sebastian
Sebastian Vahl wrote:
So would it be a safe option to remove this fonts? Or does this maybe affect people using some of this fonts if they want to watch a website in this language?
Yes it does affect a lot of people if we want good support for those languages out of the box. There has been some recent changes regarding what fonts are installed by default in the regular image which you can see in fedora-devel list. Matching that would be good.
Rahul
Am Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:08:55 +0530 schrieb Rahul Sundaram sundaram@fedoraproject.org:
Sebastian Vahl wrote:
So would it be a safe option to remove this fonts? Or does this maybe affect people using some of this fonts if they want to watch a website in this language?
Yes it does affect a lot of people if we want good support for those languages out of the box. There has been some recent changes regarding what fonts are installed by default in the regular image which you can see in fedora-devel list. Matching that would be good.
Ok. So including the group "base-x" should match the current decision. And because it's on livecd-fedora-base-desktop I just have to remove "fonts-*" from livecd-fedora-kde.ks.
The result would be:
bitmap-fonts cjkunifonts-uming dejavu-lgc-fonts fonts-arabic fonts-bengali fonts-gujarati fonts-hebrew fonts-hindi fonts-kannada fonts-korean fonts-oriya fonts-punjabi fonts-sinhala fonts-tamil fonts-telugu ghostscript-fonts jomolhari-fonts liberation-fonts sazanami-fonts-gothic urw-fonts xorg-x11-fonts-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-ISO8859-1-100dpi xorg-x11-fonts-misc xorg-x11-fonts-truetype xorg-x11-fonts-Type1
So these ones would be gone because they are defined as "optional" (at least atm):
cjkunifonts-ukai fonts-chinese fonts-hebrew-fancy fonts-ISO8859-2 fonts-ISO8859-2-100dpi fonts-ISO8859-2-75dpi fonts-japanese fonts-KOI8-R fonts-KOI8-R-100dpi fonts-KOI8-R-75dpi fonts-malayalam fonts-truetype-apl fonts-x11-apl sazanami-fonts-mincho
Sebastian
On 9/18/07, Rex Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu wrote:
Sebastian Vahl wrote:
the size of the kde livecd is exploding. Suggestions?
live DVD? :)
-- Rex
I think we are alienating non broadband users as it is. In the irc rooms, the only CD installation we can suggest to people is the LiveCD.
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