Hi
As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15 release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks
Rahul
if you would like to try a good one, how about turpial, http://turpial.org.ve/downloads/
On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Rahul Sundaram metherid@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15 release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks
Rahul
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On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:52 -0430, Dokuro wrote:
if you would like to try a good one, how about turpial, http://turpial.org.ve/downloads/
It's not packaged in Fedora.
how do i submit it to be packaged?
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bastien Nocera bnocera@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:52 -0430, Dokuro wrote:
if you would like to try a good one, how about turpial, http://turpial.org.ve/downloads/
It's not packaged in Fedora.
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Even if you will, it won't make it in time for F15. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dokuro dario.soto@gmail.com wrote:
how do i submit it to be packaged?
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bastien Nocera bnocera@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:52 -0430, Dokuro wrote:
if you would like to try a good one, how about turpial, http://turpial.org.ve/downloads/
It's not packaged in Fedora.
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still future is future, is there a link with the info?
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Elad elad@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Even if you will, it won't make it in time for F15. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dokuro dario.soto@gmail.com wrote:
how do i submit it to be packaged?
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bastien Nocera bnocera@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:52 -0430, Dokuro wrote:
if you would like to try a good one, how about turpial, http://turpial.org.ve/downloads/
It's not packaged in Fedora.
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Dokuro wrote:
still future is future, is there a link with the info?
Please, do not top post.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Dokuro dario.soto@gmail.com wrote:
still future is future, is there a link with the info?
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Elad elad@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Even if you will, it won't make it in time for F15. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dokuro dario.soto@gmail.com wrote:
how do i submit it to be packaged?
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bastien Nocera bnocera@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:52 -0430, Dokuro wrote:
if you would like to try a good one, how about turpial, http://turpial.org.ve/downloads/
It's not packaged in Fedora.
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Rahul Sundaram (metherid@gmail.com) said:
As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15 release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks
This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?
Bill
On 05/10/2011 08:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?
Nothing that would block the release but certainly important issues nevertheless
Twitter doesn't work https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192
Streams don't refresh https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694730
Menu items aside from "New account" are missing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694732
There are many more but these should be enough justification
Rahul
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 21:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/10/2011 08:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?
Nothing that would block the release but certainly important issues nevertheless
Twitter doesn't work https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192
Streams don't refresh https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694730
Menu items aside from "New account" are missing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694732
There are many more but these should be enough justification
Throw a Blocks: f15-accepted on the first one.
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 21:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/10/2011 08:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?
Nothing that would block the release but certainly important issues nevertheless
Twitter doesn't work https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192
Streams don't refresh https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694730
Menu items aside from "New account" are missing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694732
There are many more but these should be enough justification
Throw a Blocks: f15-accepted on the first one.
Scratch that, in fact, make it f15blocker. per the criteria, if a default app is completely useless, that's a blocker:
"All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu items"
Em 10-05-2011 13:08, Adam Williamson escreveu:
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 09:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 21:19 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/10/2011 08:18 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
This could be done either in comps (remove it as a default package in graphical internet) or in the kickstart. Do you have a bug reference that we could point to for blocker or nice-to-have status?
Nothing that would block the release but certainly important issues nevertheless
Twitter doesn't work https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=629192
Streams don't refresh https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694730
Menu items aside from "New account" are missing https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694732
There are many more but these should be enough justification
Throw a Blocks: f15-accepted on the first one.
Scratch that, in fact, make it f15blocker. per the criteria, if a default app is completely useless, that's a blocker:
"All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu items"
Hi guys,
I'm the pino maintainer on Fedora. I'm extremely disappointed with the pino upstream development, looks like it was abandoned.
Unfortunately I'm not a vala developer and I can't maintain pino without a great support from upstream (there are a lot of open bugs without some action by upstream [1]
I'd like to remove pino from default F15 installation for while, and if the upstream project increase the quality of pino we can put it back in future releases.
[1] http://code.google.com/p/pino-twitter/issues/list
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 23:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15 release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks
I would be opposed to pulling an entirely new app in the spin at this point, but dropping pino is fine with me.
Matthias Clasen (mclasen@redhat.com) said:
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 23:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15 release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks
I would be opposed to pulling an entirely new app in the spin at this point, but dropping pino is fine with me.
Done.
Bill
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Matthias Clasen mclasen@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 23:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15 release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks
I would be opposed to pulling an entirely new app in the spin at this point, but dropping pino is fine with me.
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Didn't we have Gwibber in F14 by default?
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 19:26 +0300, Elad wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Matthias Clasen mclasen@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 23:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable state and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the Fedora 15 release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is better or if it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging client at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release. Thanks
I would be opposed to pulling an entirely new app in the spin at this point, but dropping pino is fine with me.
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Didn't we have Gwibber in F14 by default?
No, it was pino.
On Tue, 10 May 2011 20:43:45 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 19:26 +0300, Elad wrote:
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Matthias Clasen mclasen@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 23:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Hi
As a co-maintainer, I would note that it is not in a very usable
state
and upstream is not going to fix these issues in time for the
Fedora 15
release. You can replace it with Hotot or Gwibber if it is
better or if
it too late to be doing this, just not ship with a micro blogging
client
at all and evaluate one of the options for the next release.
Thanks
I would be opposed to pulling an entirely new app in the spin at
this
point, but dropping pino is fine with me.
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Didn't we have Gwibber in F14 by default?
No, it was pino.
The change to Pino was, from my understanding, due to lesser dependencies and issues over space on the LiveCD back when Gwibber imported the Erlang packages and the CouchDB desktop database. Gwibber has since moved to using SQLite and yet still not been accepted back to being provided as the default.
Pino has never worked properly for a number of people, especially with the Twitter OAuth move, and this issue has been raised with the last two releases, and somewhat to Fedora's discredit, the discussion is going around in circles back to disabling Pino again during the Beta cycle because, yet again, it doesn't work.
Gwibber by default? http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2010-April/006002.html
F14: what to do about pino / twitter http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2010-October/006546.html
Can the decision be made to ship the currently working Gwibber, even with the occassional bugs it does have, it does at least fit the working use-cases to be included as a default application?
The previous threads about Pino/Gwibber cover 95% of the issues (lateness in the release cycle, etc) in this regard, to save people some typing :)
cheers, Dagan
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