Hi,
One thing we've been working on lately here on the Mugshot team is prototyping part of what an "online desktop" would be. For more information about the ideas behind the project, see Havoc's blog entry:
http://log.ometer.com/2007-04.html#3
If you'd like to try out the Big Board mentioned in that entry, see this wiki page:
http://developer.mugshot.org/wiki/Big_Board
There are Fedora Core 6 RPMs available, with instructions on the page. You can also compile/install from source of course. I'm presently working on submitting some of the prerequisite RPMs to Fedora (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235741), if someone out there is an RPM expert and could take a look at the pacakges that would rock.
Let us know what you think!
One important known bug worth mentioning here is currently it doesn't work correctly with Compiz: http://bugzilla.mugshot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1201
Colin Walters wrote:
Hi,
One thing we've been working on lately here on the Mugshot team is prototyping part of what an "online desktop" would be. For more information about the ideas behind the project, see Havoc's blog entry:
http://log.ometer.com/2007-04.html#3
If you'd like to try out the Big Board mentioned in that entry, see this wiki page:
http://developer.mugshot.org/wiki/Big_Board
There are Fedora Core 6 RPMs available, with instructions on the page. You can also compile/install from source of course. I'm presently working on submitting some of the prerequisite RPMs to Fedora (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=235741), if someone out there is an RPM expert and could take a look at the pacakges that would rock.
Let us know what you think!
Installed bigboard from the repo file on Fedora Core 6. The side bar on the left says "sign in to Mugshot" on three places (On top, below applications, below photos) even though I am already signed in and running. Clicking on it doesn't work. Here is the command line output. If you need more info let me know.
#bigboard
Data Dir: /usr/share/deskbar-applet Handlers Dir: ['/home/sundaram/.gnome2/deskbar-applet/handlers', '/usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers'] Binding Global shortcut <Alt>F3 to focus the deskbar Set entry width: 20 Layout changed to 1 Changing UI to: Entriac Introspect error: The name org.mugshot.Mugshot was not provided by any .service files Introspect error: The name org.mugshot.Mugshot was not provided by any .service files Loading module 'del.icio.us Bookmarks' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/desklicious.py. Loading module 'Beagle' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/beagle-static.py. *** *** The file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/galeon.py (GaleonBookmarksHandler) decided to not load itself: Galeon is not your preferred browser, not using it. *** Loading module 'Mail (Address Book)' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/evolution.py. *** *** The file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/galago.py (GalagoHandler) decided to not load itself: Waiting for python bindings of galago. Should allow to send IM by typing name. *** Loading module 'Recent Documents' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/recent.py. Loading module 'History' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/history.py. Loading module 'Fedora Bugzilla Entries' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/fedorabz.py. Loading module 'Web' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/web_address.py. Error loading the file: /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/gdmactions.py. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/deskbar/ModuleLoader.py", line 91, in import_module mod = pydoc.importfile (filename) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/pydoc.py", line 237, in importfile raise ErrorDuringImport(path, sys.exc_info()) ErrorDuringImport: problem in /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/gdmactions.py - ImportError: No module named gdmclient Loading module 'Web Searches' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/mozilla.py. Loading module 'Web History' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/mozilla.py. Loading module 'Web Bookmarks' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/mozilla.py. Loading module 'Files and Folders Search' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/programs.py. Loading module 'Dictionary' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/programs.py. Loading module 'Developer Documentation' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/programs.py. Error:load_icon:Icon Load Error:Icon 'devhelp' not present in theme (or Icon 'devhelp' not present in theme) Loading module 'Programs' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/programs.py. *** *** The file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/epiphany.py (EpiphanyBookmarksHandler) decided to not load itself: Epiphany is not your preferred browser, not using it. *** *** *** The file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/google-live.py (GoogleLiveHandler) decided to not load itself: You need to install the SOAPpy python module. *** *** *** The file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/beagle-live.py (BeagleLiveHandler) decided to not load itself: Could not load beagle, libbeagle has been compiled without python bindings:No module named beagle *** Loading module 'Window Switcher' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/iswitch-window.py. Error:load_icon:Icon Load Error:Icon 'panel-window-menu' not present in theme (or Icon 'panel-window-menu.png' not present in theme) Loading module 'Yahoo! Search' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/yahoo.py. Loading module 'Files, Folders and Places' from file /usr/lib/deskbar-applet/handlers/files.py. Initializing History Initializing Programs Initializing Mail (Address Book) Error while initializing Mail (Address Book). Requirements not met. You need to enable autocomplete in your mail preferences Initializing Web Initializing Files, Folders and Places Initializing Web Bookmarks Initializing Web Searches Stopping History Stopping Web Stopping Files, Folders and Places Stopping Web Searches Initializing Yahoo! Search Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bigboard/stock.py", line 101, in <lambda> self.__signin.connect("button-press-event", lambda signin, event: self.__on_signin_press()) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bigboard/stock.py", line 154, in __on_signin_press baseurl = self._mugshot.get_baseurl() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bigboard/mugshot.py", line 229, in get_baseurl return self.__get_baseprop('baseurl') File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bigboard/mugshot.py", line 226, in __get_baseprop return self.__baseprops[name] TypeError: unsubscriptable object
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Installed bigboard from the repo file on Fedora Core 6. The side bar on the left says "sign in to Mugshot" on three places (On top, below applications, below photos) even though I am already signed in and running.
Are you running the Mugshot client, in addition to being signed into the web site?
Introspect error: The name org.mugshot.Mugshot was not provided by any .service files Introspect error: The name org.mugshot.Mugshot was not provided by any .service files
This error seems to suggest it is not running. Try executing 'mugshot' from a command launcher. Or perhaps you are using a very old version?
File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/bigboard/mugshot.py", line 226, in __get_baseprop return self.__baseprops[name] TypeError: unsubscriptable object
Yeah, I see now how this bug would occur if the client was not running. We should handle this better in the near future; Havoc is doing some work to ensure that Big Board can talk to the Mugshot server without requiring the Mugshot client UI (with the notifications).
Colin Walters wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Installed bigboard from the repo file on Fedora Core 6. The side bar on the left says "sign in to Mugshot" on three places (On top, below applications, below photos) even though I am already signed in and running.
Are you running the Mugshot client, in addition to being signed into the web site?
Yes. Is there a way to automatically sign in on the website when running the mugshot client?
Introspect error: The name org.mugshot.Mugshot was not provided by any .service files Introspect error: The name org.mugshot.Mugshot was not provided by any .service files
This error seems to suggest it is not running. Try executing 'mugshot' from a command launcher. Or perhaps you are using a very old version?
mugshot-1.1.33-1.fc6. Mugshot frontpage or my profile pages don't show any prominent links to download the new client. The client download page linked from the developer wiki page has outdated packages at http://download.mugshot.org/client/fedora-core-6/. Automatic prompt at http://mugshot.org/upgrade?platform=linux does point to the latest version though. There is no quit option in the client either. Killed the older version and I am running 1.1.40-1 now. It works. I will play it with some more and provide feedback.
As I said in FUDCon Boston binary patches like Firefox (without root password) would be nice but I am probably dreaming. Having it the repo is a workaround.
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Yes. Is there a way to automatically sign in on the website when running the mugshot client?
Basically the client picks up cookies from firefox; if you're signed in on the website you should be on the client. The only caveat is signing out on the web site right now does not sign you out on the client.
mugshot-1.1.33-1.fc6. Mugshot frontpage or my profile pages don't show any prominent links to download the new client. The client download page linked from the developer wiki page has outdated packages at http://download.mugshot.org/client/fedora-core-6/. Automatic prompt at http://mugshot.org/upgrade?platform=linux does point to the latest version though.
Ah ok, so this was the real problem.
There is no quit option in the client either.
There should be in the latest version on right click, though there might not have been in the earlier version.
Killed the older version and I am running 1.1.40-1 now. It works. I will play it with some more and provide feedback.
Cool!
As I said in FUDCon Boston binary patches like Firefox (without root password) would be nice but I am probably dreaming. Having it the repo is a workaround.
Just talked with Owen and I think we're going to ensure compatibility and turn on the bits that get it pushed into the main Fedora repository, so the upgrade issue should mostly go away.
Colin Walters wrote:
If you'd like to try out the Big Board mentioned in that entry, see this wiki page:
http://developer.mugshot.org/wiki/Big_Board
Let us know what you think!
It have a few annoying things (which I believe you are aware already): - on the wiki you recommend starting it by typing "bigboard" at a command prompt, unfortunaely, bigboard will not launch in the background (not even using "bigboard &") and if you close the terminal, also the application is closed. A better way is to press Alt+F2 to gett the Gnome "run" dialog and type "bigboard" there, but this leave you without a way to close the application. - if I talked about application close, is there a way to close the app without killing it? I didn't saw a "close" button. - another annoying thing is the window placement: bigboard is not the single most important item on the desktop to have it in the top-left corner of the screen, so it would be useful if it allowed me to drag the panel to the right border of the screen.
With those said, I noticed a minor problem (which again, I think you are already aware): having bigboard open, I went to my mugshot profile, noticed the addition to picassaweb to account settings and configured it. Bigboard noticed this addition to my profile only after a restart.
Nicu Buculei wrote:
Colin Walters wrote:
If you'd like to try out the Big Board mentioned in that entry, see this wiki page:
http://developer.mugshot.org/wiki/Big_Board
Let us know what you think!
It have a few annoying things (which I believe you are aware already):
- on the wiki you recommend starting it by typing "bigboard" at a
command prompt, unfortunaely, bigboard will not launch in the background (not even using "bigboard &") and if you close the terminal, also the application is closed. A better way is to press Alt+F2 to gett the Gnome "run" dialog and type "bigboard" there,
Excellent suggestion, I'd honestly forgotten about Alt-F2. I updated the wiki.
but this leave you without a way to close the application.
- if I talked about application close, is there a way to close the app
without killing it? I didn't saw a "close" button.
Well I can see two kinds of "close": - "I want all my screen space, but I like using bigboard." For this case ideally the "small mode" is good enough, but we might also have an option to minimize to a tray icon? - "This app sucks, never show me again". At this experimental stage, I think the recommendation will just be Alt-F2 then "xkill", click on bigboard. Longer term where the big board is only part of all the changes to "online desktop mode", I think we'll have a global control somewhere.
- another annoying thing is the window placement: bigboard is not the
single most important item on the desktop to have it in the top-left corner of the screen, so it would be useful if it allowed me to drag the panel to the right border of the screen.
Added this to the to-do on the wiki.
With those said, I noticed a minor problem (which again, I think you are already aware): having bigboard open, I went to my mugshot profile, noticed the addition to picassaweb to account settings and configured it. Bigboard noticed this addition to my profile only after a restart.
This used to work but was kind of hackish; it no longer does. Definitely an important bug to fix because it basically affects everything.
On 4/19/07, Colin Walters walters@redhat.com wrote:
Hi,
One thing we've been working on lately here on the Mugshot team is prototyping part of what an "online desktop" would be. For more information about the ideas behind the project, see Havoc's blog entry:
http://log.ometer.com/2007-04.html#3
If you'd like to try out the Big Board mentioned in that entry, see this wiki page:
http://download.mugshot.org/extras/bigboard/bigboard.repo
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Can you please fix the issue or the bad link because I can't wait to test BigBoard - looks like fabulous project !
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