The Workstation WG meeting will be held Wednesday 2016-09-28 at 11:00am EDT (1500 UTC).
The agenda looks a little light at the moment; I may have missed something obvious while working on other things. Corrections and additions are gratefully accepted:
* GNOME 3.22 crashes (Shell, webkitgtk4, other?)
* Talking points completion for Final needed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_talking_points#Fedora_Workstation
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
The Workstation WG meeting will be held Wednesday 2016-09-28 at 11:00am EDT (1500 UTC).
The agenda looks a little light at the moment; I may have missed something obvious while working on other things. Corrections and additions are gratefully accepted:
GNOME 3.22 crashes (Shell, webkitgtk4, other?)
Talking points completion for Final needed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_talking_points#Fedora_Workstation
More of a food for thought and heads up than anything urgent or needing a decision.
Cloud folks are looking to change atomic host deliverables from using LVM thinly provisioned storage for containers, to overlayfs (and XFS), for Fedora 26 [1]. The summary is:
- Overlayfs instead of dm-thin, continue to use XFS [2] - Installer default partitioning changes needed - Workstation may want to do the same thing
My take is to mimic what the cloud folks do, it'll make it easier to do the installer change; easier to explain to anyone who cares about such details; the test coverage will be broader.
What makes Workstation different down the road though, are upgrades. How, and whether, conventional installs are converted @ upgrade time to rpm-ostree based installs. So there may be a way to settle on a new layout that works well for both conventional and rpm-ostree installs, so that it's easier to do conversions at upgrade time, if that's a plausible use case in the distant and shiny future.
[1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org/...
[2] The Docker device mapper storage driver uses XFS as the backing file system on thinly provisioned storage; so this would be a file system change for Workstation. It is possible to use ext4 on overlayfs, but there's some eye glazing considerations about inodes, and such, that you can ignore for now.
On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Paul W. Frields stickster@gmail.com wrote:
The Workstation WG meeting will be held Wednesday 2016-09-28 at 11:00am EDT (1500 UTC).
The agenda looks a little light at the moment; I may have missed something obvious while working on other things. Corrections and additions are gratefully accepted:
GNOME 3.22 crashes (Shell, webkitgtk4, other?)
Talking points completion for Final needed https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_talking_points#Fedora_Workstation
I would like to ask the WG to agree, during the meeting, on the way how OSTree image is going to be delivered in F25/F26 ? My proposal is stated in https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/desktop@lists.fedoraproject.or... . Once I will have an agreement from the WG I can open a ticket to FESCo to approve.
Thanks and Best Regards, Jan
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