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My personal opinion is that we ought to try not disrupting the release schedule. If some features miss the release train, it could wait 6 monthq (and, I disagree with dropping the whole server products). Fedora.Next is a big change in our model, our priority is to release F21 and get some feedbacks so we can adjust the plan.

The thing is - server guys thinks, that without roles API it would not be Fedora.next. One can argue, that Fedora.Next is creation of products, not completion of products although.

I can be for delay with a real action plan for roles framework delivery, I'd be against slipping just for "we need time, we don't know how much and what we're going to do and when". In such case, it would make sense to release limited preview of Server product or even skip it for release.

Probably what we need for products is the same as we do for spins - readiness checklist and we should be able if product is ready for release or not.

Jaroslav

Delaying F21 anymore is quite risky for us, I'd rather have a less ambitious release than getting stuck.

H.

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