there was some recent talk about including additional templates in OpenOffice.org as distributed by Fedora: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-March/msg00478.html the discuss was expanded later to other extras, like clipart.
it appears other distributors are doing exactly this: add a lot of extras to their version of OOo, for example Novell is planning to include images from the Open Clip Art Library: http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/clipart/2005-March/002539.html
someone has created a rpm which probably will go in Fedora Extras https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-March/msg00566.html but IMO, something better is needed: integration - either include the clip art images in an OOo gallery using the patch from Novell or modify the OOo menu, adding a new item Insert->Pictures->Clipart which will point to the location of the installed images.
also i think is worth judging the usefulness of including a *selection* of clipart in Core (i know in FC5 will not matter much if a package is in Core or Extras, this is about the next release, FC4). my take is: including clipart in the default install can benefit the overall value of the desktop, but also the size constraints should be considered.
Hi If we need clipart we should be able to download it. It shouldn't be a part of the package.
Cheers Bob
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 10:16 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
there was some recent talk about including additional templates in OpenOffice.org as distributed by Fedora: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-March/msg00478.html the discuss was expanded later to other extras, like clipart.
it appears other distributors are doing exactly this: add a lot of extras to their version of OOo, for example Novell is planning to include images from the Open Clip Art Library: http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/clipart/2005-March/002539.html
someone has created a rpm which probably will go in Fedora Extras https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-March/msg00566.html but IMO, something better is needed: integration - either include the clip art images in an OOo gallery using the patch from Novell or modify the OOo menu, adding a new item Insert->Pictures->Clipart which will point to the location of the installed images.
also i think is worth judging the usefulness of including a *selection* of clipart in Core (i know in FC5 will not matter much if a package is in Core or Extras, this is about the next release, FC4). my take is: including clipart in the default install can benefit the overall value of the desktop, but also the size constraints should be considered.
-- nicu
Some minimal stuff should be there - a few templates, a few cliparts etc. When you need them, you do often not have the time needed to go searching for them...
man, 14.03.2005 kl. 11.16 skrev Frank smith:
Hi If we need clipart we should be able to download it. It shouldn't be a part of the package.
Cheers Bob
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 10:16 +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
there was some recent talk about including additional templates in OpenOffice.org as distributed by Fedora: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-March/msg00478.html the discuss was expanded later to other extras, like clipart.
it appears other distributors are doing exactly this: add a lot of extras to their version of OOo, for example Novell is planning to include images from the Open Clip Art Library: http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/clipart/2005-March/002539.html
someone has created a rpm which probably will go in Fedora Extras https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2005-March/msg00566.html but IMO, something better is needed: integration - either include the clip art images in an OOo gallery using the patch from Novell or modify the OOo menu, adding a new item Insert->Pictures->Clipart which will point to the location of the installed images.
also i think is worth judging the usefulness of including a *selection* of clipart in Core (i know in FC5 will not matter much if a package is in Core or Extras, this is about the next release, FC4). my take is: including clipart in the default install can benefit the overall value of the desktop, but also the size constraints should be considered.
-- nicu
Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Some minimal stuff should be there - a few templates, a few cliparts etc. When you need them, you do often not have the time needed to go searching for them...
this is why i started this discuss, we should define this "minimal" stuff. i see two possible approaches: - size based: we define a desired maximum size and collect extras until this size is reached (more the other way around: from a huge pool of extras we eliminate until the size in reached) - functionality based: we define a set of goals (as user needs) and collect extras to fulfill those goals - for example, say we consider our users will want to draw network charts with OOo, then we should include a complete set of computer equipment images.
i would prefer the second approach
man, 14.03.2005 kl. 11.16 skrev Frank smith:
Hi If we need clipart we should be able to download it. It shouldn't be a part of the package.
we can have two packages containing extras: a small but useful one in Core and a big one in Extras
man, 14.03.2005 kl. 16.43 skrev Nicu Buculei:
Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote:
Some minimal stuff should be there - a few templates, a few cliparts etc. When you need them, you do often not have the time needed to go searching for them...
this is why i started this discuss, we should define this "minimal" stuff. i see two possible approaches:
- size based: we define a desired maximum size and collect extras until
this size is reached (more the other way around: from a huge pool of extras we eliminate until the size in reached)
- functionality based: we define a set of goals (as user needs) and
collect extras to fulfill those goals - for example, say we consider our users will want to draw network charts with OOo, then we should include a complete set of computer equipment images.
i would prefer the second approach
Me to. Exept that dia is already pretty nice for making charts :)
man, 14.03.2005 kl. 11.16 skrev Frank smith:
Hi If we need clipart we should be able to download it. It shouldn't be a part of the package.
we can have two packages containing extras: a small but useful one in Core and a big one in Extras
Agreed.
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