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Fedora Bounty for translations
by Dimitris Glezos 13 Apr '07

13 Apr '07

Hey all. I just written a proposal for a Google Summer of Code for "an upstream-compatible L10N platform for Fedora". http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraBounties#L10NPlatform Comments? Suggestions? Anyone experienced in Python thinking of taking it? GSoC pays around $4000 (€3000) for each successfully completed project plus $500 that go to the Fedora Project. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Statistics for Docs translations
by Dimitris Glezos 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

Hey all. Since the Docs translations are being committed to `cvs.fedoraproject.org`, the i18n web interface doens't list them. So, I've created a (non-dynamic) wiki page with a snapshot of the current translation statistics [1]. [1]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Translation/Statistics As you may see, we would *really* like some help there. There are very few languages with full translations of important and small-in-size modules like docs-common, homepage and about-fedora. If remember correctly, the Docs project has a policy only to include translations that are above 90% complete. According to the Docs Schedule [2], translation for the release notes can start on 3rd April and for the guides on the 7th. [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject/Schedule To checkout a module, you can do something like: export CVSROOT=:ext:glezos@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/docs cvs co homepage kbabel homepage/devel/po/el.po cvs commit homepage/devel/po/el.po To commit you need to be a member of the 'cvsl10n' group. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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readme-burning-isos Makefile
by Miloš Komarčević 31 Mar '07

31 Mar '07

Hi, Can somebody please add "sr" to the list of supported languages in the readme-burning-isos Makefile? It seems I don't have the necessary CVS access privileges to do it myself (btw, big thumbs up for the CVS integration work between docs and l10n). TIA, Miloš

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Changes in Docs CVS
by Paul W. Frields 28 Mar '07

28 Mar '07

During the last year the Docs Project has made significant strides in working with the XML in our CVS repository. Our toolchain has improved along with our understanding of how to make better use of our XML content assets. We are making a change that will turn quite a number of translations "fuzzy" but the changes themselves will be quite minimal. Some time ago, because of some toolchain deficiencies, we elected to use the "xml2po -e" option to parse entities when creating POT and PO files. So if our XML looked like this: <para>This paragraph is about &FED;.</para> The POT would use contain this msgid: This paragraph is about Fedora. We are moving now to a better XML handling infrastructure where the POT's msgid will instead look like this: This paragraph is about &FED;. These entity definitions, such as &FED; or &FCVER;, are defined in our docs-common/ module under docs-common/common/entities, and can be translated using normal POT/PO tools. By translating that content, you will allow these entities to be "filled in" after translation, and during the build process. Previously, if an entity changed, the msgid's using that content would all change too. Now changes in the entities can be entirely independent of the content and if we change &FCVER; from "7" to "8," you will not need to update any content. (Entities with actual language content would need to be kept up-to-date, of course!) So, while there will be some temporary minor inconvenience, in the long run this will improve the translation process and lighten your workload. Thank you to everyone who works so hard on the translations of Fedora content! -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug

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Removing two docs module from 'translate' folder
by A S Alam 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

hi Team following _docs_ modules are removed from i18n.redhat.com ( from 'translate'): ---- install-guide release-notes ---- What does it effect: 1. 'translate' folder has missing those to folder missing with cvs up 2. If anybody working on these files, please send those files to me to update in cvs (if you have not fedoraproject.org account) why: for documentation, we are going to use fedoraproject.org server as Dimitris Glezos mention in previous mail. Thanks -- A S Alam #fedora-l10n (freenode) tz GMT+5:30 "Either find a way or Make one"

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Re: Fedora Translators: join the cvsl10n group
by Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan 26 Mar '07

26 Mar '07

I've added myself to the group cvsl10n with username szaman Who will approve the role status? -----Original Message----- From: Dimitris Glezos <dimitris(a)glezos.com> To: Fedora Translation Project List <fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:32:47 +0000 Subject: Fedora Translators: join the cvsl10n group Hey all! As you might have already figured out, we are trying to make it easier for translators to contribute to Fedora. Also, we are trying to make the L10N Project more like the rest of the Fedora Projects: with its own group, processes and identity. Here is an overview of the current and future translation process. i18n.redhat.com --------------- This is the "standard" system for translations so far (also called 'elvis'). To contribute here, you need to have a special account on the system and you get the usual web interface to statistics. Once F7 is out, we are moving all Fedora software away from this system. ** NOTE: ** Translations for Fedora software will CONTINUE on this system until the release of F7. cvs.fedoraproject.org --------------------- This system hosts all that has to do with Fedora, including Documentation. In fact, as mentioned earlier, once F7 is out, all Fedora-specific software (`anaconda`, `system-config-*`, etc) will move here too. ** NOTE: ** Translations for Documentation are done on this system NOW. If you would like to contribute with translations to Docs for the Fedora 7 release (browser homepage, release notes, install guide, etc), you need to create a Fedora Account and request 'cvsl10n' membership now. 1. If you already have a Fedora Account, request membership to `cvsl10n`: https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/userbox.cgi?_edit=1 2. If you don't have a Fedora Account, please create one and join the group: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Join This group is a special CVS group for translators: It has access to all `po` directories for projects hosted on `cvs.fedoraproject.org`. Those of you who already have `cvsdocs` but only contribute to Docs with translations, can safely remove `cvsdocs` from your list. Probably some of the above might sound confusing or daunting. Any questions, clarifications, feel free to ask. I hope that eventually we will increase the coverage of our translations. The default browser homepage in FC6 had only the following translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Greek, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Spanish, Swedish, and US English. Where is *your* language on that list? How about making the browser homepage localized in 50 languages? :) -d PS: I wrote the `/L10N/Join` page quickly, so it might contain mistakes. Please correct any! -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) -- -- Fedora-trans-list mailing list Fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-trans-list ------------------------ Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan

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Domain for translation statistics etc.
by Dimitris Glezos 25 Mar '07

25 Mar '07

Hi. Is there any preference between the following for the domain that will hold the translation statistics and stuff? * http://translations.fedoraproject.org/ * http://l10n.fedoraproject.org/ * http://i18n.fedoraproject.org/ The first is more user-friendly -- not all people know the acronym l10n and even less know its difference with 'i18n' and 'translations'. If the only thing hosted on this domain will be translations statistics, then we could go with the first. The third is probably completely out of scope. We can ask the Infrastructure Project to create it right away and at least host up there some command-line statistics for Docs, until the Web UI comes along. -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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Self-Introduction: Peter Sulyok
by Sulyok Peti 25 Mar '07

25 Mar '07

Dear Fedora Members, My name is Péter Sulyok. I am from Budapest, Hungary. (+0100) I work on software development for a multinational mobile corp. I would like to take part in translation of docs/websites/packages, and start the Hungarian Welcome page in the wiki. I have been hanging around Fedora Project since the beginning. I have translated several packages for Fedora and other projects. I tried to write documentation (Firewall Tutorial), develop config tool (GUI for iptables) for Fedora. I have graduated in computer sciences, but I have got my computer skills mainly from the free softwares in the Internet. I work with Java, Oracle PL/SQL, and shell scripts now. I am also familiar with Python, C, C++, PHP, GTK+, QT, autoconf/automake, cvs, subversion, PostgreSQL, and system administration. Some of my products are available here: http://sp.web.elte.hu/index.html.en [peti@sutty ~]$ gpg --fingerprint E2EA75DC pub 1024D/E2EA75DC 2004-10-07 Key fingerprint = EE9A 945B C9FA 2943 656A A75A A92A 82E9 E2EA 75DC uid Sulyok Péter <peti(a)sulyok.hu> sub 2048g/DE2CE616 2004-10-07 Best Regards, Peti

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xdg-user-dirs - user directory localization
by Alexander Larsson 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

I've designed a system to handle special folders like ~/Desktop and ~/Music in a desktop-independent way that allows for translation of these directories. See http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fxdg_2duser_2ddirs for details. I've gotten some translations so far (mostly from gnome translators), but I'd like to get more. This will be in Fedora 7, so it would be nice if we could get a wide coverage before that is released. It just contains a few strings to be translated, so it should be easy to do. The code can be accessed with: cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.freedesktop.org:/cvs/user-dirs co xdg-user-dirs Things are in the po/ directory like with any gettext translated packages. All strings are used as filenames, and are availible with and without first letter capitalized. Please send all pofiles to me and i'll merge them. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Alexander Larsson Red Hat, Inc alexl(a)redhat.com alla(a)lysator.liu.se He's an unconventional Republican cyborg looking for a cure to the poison coursing through his veins. She's a chain-smoking junkie barmaid with someone else's memories. They fight crime!

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Fedora Translators: join the cvsl10n group
by Dimitris Glezos 24 Mar '07

24 Mar '07

Hey all! As you might have already figured out, we are trying to make it easier for translators to contribute to Fedora. Also, we are trying to make the L10N Project more like the rest of the Fedora Projects: with its own group, processes and identity. Here is an overview of the current and future translation process. i18n.redhat.com --------------- This is the "standard" system for translations so far (also called 'elvis'). To contribute here, you need to have a special account on the system and you get the usual web interface to statistics. Once F7 is out, we are moving all Fedora software away from this system. ** NOTE: ** Translations for Fedora software will CONTINUE on this system until the release of F7. cvs.fedoraproject.org --------------------- This system hosts all that has to do with Fedora, including Documentation. In fact, as mentioned earlier, once F7 is out, all Fedora-specific software (`anaconda`, `system-config-*`, etc) will move here too. ** NOTE: ** Translations for Documentation are done on this system NOW. If you would like to contribute with translations to Docs for the Fedora 7 release (browser homepage, release notes, install guide, etc), you need to create a Fedora Account and request 'cvsl10n' membership now. 1. If you already have a Fedora Account, request membership to `cvsl10n`: https://admin.fedora.redhat.com/accounts/userbox.cgi?_edit=1 2. If you don't have a Fedora Account, please create one and join the group: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Join This group is a special CVS group for translators: It has access to all `po` directories for projects hosted on `cvs.fedoraproject.org`. Those of you who already have `cvsdocs` but only contribute to Docs with translations, can safely remove `cvsdocs` from your list. Probably some of the above might sound confusing or daunting. Any questions, clarifications, feel free to ask. I hope that eventually we will increase the coverage of our translations. The default browser homepage in FC6 had only the following translations: Brazilian Portuguese, Greek, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Simplified Chinese, Spanish, Swedish, and US English. Where is *your* language on that list? How about making the browser homepage localized in 50 languages? :) -d PS: I wrote the `/L10N/Join` page quickly, so it might contain mistakes. Please correct any! -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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