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Fwd: Self introduction
by Alex Eng 05 Aug '16

05 Aug '16

Hi, My name is Alex Eng and I'm from Zanata team. Apart from engineering, I'm interested in working in translations too for Fedora. I'm fluent in Simplify Chinese, Malay, English, and Traditional Chinese but I would start with Simplify Chinese for the time being. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aeng -- Alex Eng

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[Bug 1236278] New: Update the words in Marathi spell check
by Red Hat Bugzilla 24 Jul '16

24 Jul '16

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1236278 Bug ID: 1236278 Summary: Update the words in Marathi spell check Product: Fedora Localization Component: Other language Severity: low Assignee: dimitris(a)glezos.com Reporter: shantanu.oak(a)gmail.com QA Contact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: dimitris(a)glezos.com, piotrdrag(a)gmail.com, trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Description of problem: The words found in current hunspell are not enough. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): All versions How reproducible: Try marathi spell check in Libre office. Actual results: Unsatisfactory options Expected results: Better suggestions. Additional info: Add all the verified words from this link: http://bit.ly/1NmNMJd -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=C8kMP3BVwj&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Bug 1193258] New: L10N wiki pages seem to all still refer to transifex
by Red Hat Bugzilla 16 Apr '16

16 Apr '16

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1193258 Bug ID: 1193258 Summary: L10N wiki pages seem to all still refer to transifex Product: Fedora Localization Component: l10n-requests Assignee: dimitris(a)glezos.com Reporter: rbean(a)redhat.com QA Contact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: diegobz(a)gmail.com, dimitris(a)glezos.com, fedora(a)couf.be, piotrdrag(a)gmail.com, trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org It is my understanding that we have moved from transifex to zanata. Correct? Lots of the L10N pages still point to transifex and it would help for onboarding new contributors if they pointed instead to zanata. For instance, this one is laden with references: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_Maintainer -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=BobXVX1Iou&a=cc_unsubscribe

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Zanata asking Fedora users to provide name, userid and email even after FAS openid login
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 03 Jan '16

03 Jan '16

Hi All, $subject. Two problems: 1. There is chance of FAS user can create account with different username and it will affect our plan to connect with FedBus and generate stats. 2. Was talking with CLA agreement with Zanata guys earlier. They said rather than they work on signing agreement from users, they want user simply sign CLA of different project i.e. Fedora, OepnStack and they will simply connect users to respective project portal. In this case no need to sign other terms of Zanata (please correct me here if i am wrong). I mean just user can simply log in and start work. Most of you might have seen it earlier. I thought its possible to get rid of this and created ticket against Fedora Infra. [1] Looks like there is method/way already. Will be very nice if we can improvement it. Will be very nice if Zanata team works with puiterwijk and fix it soon. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4947 _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n

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my summary report of G11N FAD Tokyo 2015
by Noriko Mizumoto 16 Dec '15

16 Dec '15

Hi As all we know, we had successful and memorable first G11N FAD 2015 in Tokyo between 1st to 3rd November. It was already a month ago, but just thought that it might be good to share the summary report what I discussed with others and some achievement for mainly Localization. I also like to attach the overall summary prepared by Jens [1] and the stsatus presentation slide for L10N and FLTG prepared by Ani [2], thanks guys. [DAY 1] We, l10n, fltg, i18n, zanata, all got together and presented the status each other. During hackathon, I have worked and created 'G11N' presentation slide with other members. This will be available on G11N wiki page. In the evening, we also had hangout talk and shared ideas with Cambodian team joining FAD online. [DAY 2] In the morning, we all had hangout talk and shared ideas with Fedora Project Leader, Matthew. As part of hackaton, I have joined the discussion about new FGSCo structure proposal to strengthen our team as one G11N. Then I joined the hackathon of recent zanata survey feedback analysis. It was fun and fruitful dinner gathering at the end. [DAY 3] L10N team and FLTG discussed to determine important packages to localize, giving priority. So that translators can easily find which package to start without asking around. The deprecated packages list has also been updated. In order to achieve this, we had a lot of help from I18N team members as well. I have had proposed 'software deadline change for F24' and discussed with others. We arrived the consensus no-go for this proposal, instead I18N members will start seeking and developing a script to auto-detect string breaks. L10N members will monitor the breaks closer and produce statistics. As future F24 planning, we L10N members aim to hold more local sprints/workshops. [1]:https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZa… [2]:https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/12Ffl1fRnLWahtmrvDCWEdgr671doJWjS… Thanks for reading :-) noriko _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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AppData statistics
by Jean-Baptiste 28 Nov '15

28 Nov '15

Hi there, In my quest of statistics, I created a script to have numbers about Fedora translation of RPM available in Fedora, based on AppData/AppStream files. The script is available : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Jibecfed/read_appdata_fedora_stats To run it, you need to download "Fedora-23.xml" from https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/screenshots/f23/ You can donwload examples of output files : * Global statistics https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Output_file_global-2015-11-28.csv * Detailed statistics for French : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Output_file_fr-2015-11-28.csv The xml source file is generated every couple of days by Richard Hughes from fedora repositories. His source code is available in https://github.com/hughsie/appstream-glib/ Sincerely, -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

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Reminder: G11N meeting tomorrow - 2015/11/25 06:00 UTC
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

Hi All, We have scheduled weekly g11n meeting tomorrow. [1] This one is again for i18n side but feel free to bring L10N and Zanata related topics. Regards, Pravin Satpute 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-25 _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Minutes of G11N meeting 2015/11/25
by pravin.d.s＠gmail.com 25 Nov '15

25 Nov '15

Hi All, Not discussed on L10N and Zanata stuff much. Will discuss more in next meeting. Had productive meeting from i18n side with lots of action items. More on me though ;) Here goes minutes ===================== #fedora-meeting: g11n ===================== Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:42 UTC. The full logs are available athttp://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-11-25/g11n.2015-11-2… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-25 (pravins, 06:00:57) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:02:18) * 2016-01-12 Change Checkpoint: Proposal submission deadline (System Wide Changes) (pravins, 06:02:18) * not scheduled yet Side Tag Builds Deadline (pravins, 06:02:18) * not required Mass Rebuild (pravins, 06:02:18) * 2016-02-02 Branch Fedora 24 from Rawhide (Rawhide becomes future F25) (pravins, 06:02:18) * 2016-02-16 Alpha Freeze (*) (pravins, 06:02:19) * 2016-02-16 Software String Freeze (pravins, 06:02:21) * 2016-02-16 Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable) (pravins, 06:02:23) * 2016-02-16 Bodhi activation point (pravins, 06:02:25) * Outstanding task (pravins, 06:03:46) * #36: gnome redesign plans for control-center Region and Languages (anishpatil) (pravins, 06:03:47) * ACTION: anish_ to update bug report to disable xkb layouts for Indian language in gnome. (pravins, 06:09:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756939 (pravins, 06:09:07) * New topics (pravins, 06:09:43) * #43: G11N FAD in 2015 (pravins) (pravins, 06:09:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 (pravins, 06:09:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43#comment:16 (pravins, 06:11:56) * ACTION: All FAD attendees to upload report/summaries blog link on ticket #43 (pravins, 06:13:55) * ACTION: pravins to ask all FAD attendees for summaries and reports. (pravins, 06:14:11) * paragan expense claim is almost done. (pravins, 06:17:40) * anish_ expense claim approved and moved to Ruth for reimbursement. (pravins, 06:17:58) * mfabian will complete event reports and expense claim today. (pravins, 06:18:45) * No report and expense claims from Ani and Noriko yet. (pravins, 06:19:40) * ACTION: pravins to work on Collaborating summary post on G11N Fedora activities day. (pravins, 06:20:37) * #57: Fedora 24 change planing (pravins) (pravins, 06:21:17) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57 (pravins, 06:21:21) * IDEA: String Breakage monitoring (Jens, Akira) (pravins, 06:22:13) * IDEA: Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core (Fujiwara) (pravins, 06:23:10) * Confusion should it be merged into IBus or simply fork since not active upstream. (pravins, 06:23:24) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Glibc_locale_subpackaging (pravins, 06:25:37) * ACTION: fujiwarat to set deadline for "Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core" (pravins, 06:28:11) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17LU-PmtuirbGd7wfxUuKTz7X6fsv82PVPgZaDEL… (pravins, 06:32:04) * IDEA: ibus-typing-booster: AltGr support (mfabian) (pravins, 06:32:29) * IDEA: Pinyin/zhuyin (epico) (pravins, 06:32:39) * IDEA: Automation of langpack LiveCD ( paragan ) (pravins, 06:33:17) * IDEA: PoC of NextGen G11n workflow (Jens/Zanata?) (pravins, 06:33:21) * IDEA: ITS for Gnome ( ueno ) (pravins, 06:33:46) * LINK: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2015-October/msg00013.ht… (pravins, 06:37:28) * IDEA: Automatic testing ( tagoh___) (pravins, 06:37:51) * IDEA: Description support of the configuration in fontconfig ( tagoh___) (pravins, 06:38:07) * ACTION: paragan to create ticket for Automation of langpack LiveCD for better tracking status. (pravins, 06:41:43) * ACTION: pravins to drop email on i18n list with all missed idea for F24. (pravins, 06:43:20) * #58: Prioritizing bugs for Fedora 24 release (pravins) (pravins, 06:45:33) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/58 (pravins, 06:45:34) * All open bugs are available on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2015-11-25 (pravins, 06:47:22) * Rawhide bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.… (pravins, 06:48:23) * Fedora 23 bugs https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.… (pravins, 06:49:04) * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?v4=i18n-bugs%40lists.fedoraproject.… (pravins, 06:49:13) * ACTION: Everyone to select few bugs from Bug list for Fedora 24 development cycle. (pravins, 06:50:49) * ACTION: pravins to create Wiki for listing bugs for Fedora 24. (pravins, 06:53:43) * #56: Fedora 21 EOL Bugs traiging (pravins ) (pravins, 06:53:59) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/56 (pravins, 06:53:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&f1=OP&f2=assign… (pravins, 06:54:47) * ACTION: pravins to drop email on i18n list with open bugs (pravins, 07:00:34) * ACTION: paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. (pravins, 07:01:13) * #15: Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website (pravins, 07:01:38) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/g11n/ticket/15 (pravins, 07:01:38) * ACTION: resolve "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting. (pravins, 07:04:51) * Open Floor (pravins, 07:05:02) Meeting ended at 07:09:04 UTC. Action Items ------------ * anish_ to update bug report to disable xkb layouts for Indian language in gnome. * All FAD attendees to upload report/summaries blog link on ticket #43 * pravins to ask all FAD attendees for summaries and reports. * pravins to work on Collaborating summary post on G11N Fedora activities day. * fujiwarat to set deadline for "Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core" * paragan to create ticket for Automation of langpack LiveCD for better tracking status. * pravins to drop email on i18n list with all missed idea for F24. * Everyone to select few bugs from Bug list for Fedora 24 development cycle. * pravins to create Wiki for listing bugs for Fedora 24. * pravins to drop email on i18n list with open bugs * paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. * resolve "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * anish_ * anish_ to update bug report to disable xkb layouts for Indian language in gnome. * epico * paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. * fujiwarat * fujiwarat to set deadline for "Merge IBus fbterm into ibus core" * paragan * paragan to create ticket for Automation of langpack LiveCD for better tracking status. * paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. * pravins * pravins to ask all FAD attendees for summaries and reports. * pravins to work on Collaborating summary post on G11N Fedora activities day. * pravins to drop email on i18n list with all missed idea for F24. * pravins to create Wiki for listing bugs for Fedora 24. * pravins to drop email on i18n list with open bugs * ueno * paragan ueno epico tagoh___ to triage open bugs for Fedora 21. * **UNASSIGNED** * All FAD attendees to upload report/summaries blog link on ticket #43 * Everyone to select few bugs from Bug list for Fedora 24 development cycle. * resolve "Questions on Translation work flow for Fedora Website" by Next week G11N meeting. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (144) * zodbot (8) * anish_ (8) * paragan (6) * mfabian (3) * fujiwarat (3) * ueno (2) * epico (2) * suanand (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/g11n@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Desktop and AppData translation ?
by Jean-Baptiste 22 Nov '15

22 Nov '15

Hi there, I would like to answer those questions : how to help contributor to know how/what to translate software in gnome software. Thanks to Emmanuel (Eseyman), i understand that : * the name of the software and one short description string are in a .Desktop file * the full description, link to website, etc. are in a AppData file Both are freedesktop standards : * http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/desktop-entry-spec/ * http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/ Files are in the repository of each software and can be translated. Everything is not in Zanata, but even so I don't think there is a way to find only those files in zanata. Anyway, I still would like to have an overview of a language and after blind searching, I found this website : https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/screenshots/f23/ It gives you : * a graphic status page that shows you what's in fedora actually : https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/screenshots/f23/status.html * a matrix page that shows you what's good and bad for each package : https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/screenshots/f23/matrix.html Still, nothing related to translation. Luckily, everything is in a big xml file : https://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/screenshots/f23/fedora-23.xml.gz You can search for you locale, like "fr" and see what's translated. Do anyone know who is taking care of that website and where is the code ? Thanks for you help -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

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Zanata language statistics
by Jean-Baptiste 22 Nov '15

22 Nov '15

Hi there, I created a better statistic file. You can donwload the script from there : https://github.com/Jibec/fedora-zanata-statistics => they may be some timeouts, I don't know why, but it looks like to be project-iteration related. You can download the ods file with results from there : https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/0d/Translation_statistics-2015-11-22.… Here are the results (at today 22th november) , I choosed classics european languages and some languages I heard about in the mailing list in the last month (Chinese, Romanian and Kmer). Language Total MESSAGE Total WORD Translated MESSAGE Translated WORD % MESS % WORD French 49900 585174 31189 295083 62,50% 50,43% Spanish 49900 585174 31190 288543 62,51% 49,31% German 49900 585174 25906 182923 51,92% 31,26% Chinese 49900 585174 20610 142573 41,30% 24,36% Romanian 49900 585174 3539 20357 7,09% 3,48% Kmer 49423 583242 899 6842 1,82% 1,17% It's very difficult to say that French and Spanish really are more translated than German or Chinese but it may help to have a better global view for teams. Sincerely, -- Jean-Baptiste Holcroft

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