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[Bug 1122776] [Fedora] RFE: "web hooks" callback API
by Red Hat Bugzilla 27 Aug '14

27 Aug '14

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1122776 Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)redhat.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.o | |rg Summary|RFE: "web hooks" callback |[Fedora] RFE: "web hooks" |API |callback API -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=ePUiHRh7iS&a=cc_unsubscribe

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Fedora 21 L10n & i18n test days
by Ani Peter 26 Aug '14

26 Aug '14

Dear All, Fedora 21 L10n and i18n test days are scheduled as below: i18n test day - 2nd September 2014 (Tuesday) [1] l10n test day - 9th September 2014 (Tuesday) [2] Please mark these dates on your calender and thus ensure the presence of all language testers on these dates to test Fedora 21 in our native languages. More details will be updated soon. Thanking you Best regards Ani Peter FLTG : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FLTG [1] - https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/32 [2] - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/450

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[Bug 1133359] New: [Fedora] Groups Request
by Red Hat Bugzilla 25 Aug '14

25 Aug '14

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1133359 Bug ID: 1133359 Summary: [Fedora] Groups Request Product: Zanata Version: 3.3 Component: Component-UI Assignee: djansen(a)redhat.com Reporter: noriko(a)redhat.com QA Contact: zanata-qa(a)redhat.com CC: trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, zanata-bugs(a)redhat.com Please create the following groups to categorize the projects to be registered. The list of projects and owners per group can be found at [1]. MAIN: Fedora Project packages (follows Fedora Development Schedule) UPSTREAM: Upstream packages (have own scheduling) DOCS: Fedora Documentation WEBSITES: Fedora Websites [1]:https://docs.google.com/a/griffithuni.edu.au/spreadsheets/d/1EFvaz8Fd7h-… -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=ZriGTupMVz&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Fedora] Plan Stage 0: Move to Zanata
by Noriko Mizumoto 21 Aug '14

21 Aug '14

Hi I Had short update meeting with Zanata team last week. Please feel free to discuss the following take-away and the detail should be adjusted accordingly, or add topics for next meeting. Here is the summary; * Very little bugs filed of RFE In order to make actual move easier and smoother, translators need to tell Zanata team what we want via bug. While no project registered in test instance makes testing harder. Demo projects will be added. => Done [1] * F21 schedule change Current translation deadline is 16-Sep. To avoid hassle, the move should occur after this date. Stage0 period can be extended. While, Zanata team will be ready to provide production version in two weeks. * Move - developers (packages) The transition frame is one month. Documentation and support system to be provided by Zanata team. Noriko will contact devel team to set best timing for them. * Move - translators Every language coordinator ensures smooth move? * Language code By default, Zanata uses the format xx-XX (e.g. ja-JP) while we currently use the format xx (e.g. ja). Shall we use Zanata default, otherwise every two code 'xx' requires mapping? => Bug filed [2] [1]:https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/trans/2014-August/011488.html [2]:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1128967 cheers noriko

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Presentation: Andrea Masala - Italian
by Andrea Masala 21 Aug '14

21 Aug '14

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Re: Fwd: Are we still translating things?
by Carlos Munoz 21 Aug '14

21 Aug '14

Hi David, We have used a little Groovy script of our own making that all it does is invoke commands from one of our clients. You can have a look here https://github.com/zanata/repo-sync Let me know if you have any questions about it, but it looks like you have something very similar in your makefiles. About your last question, there is actually an open bug about it: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1010132 Per this issue, there is a workaround that requires you to edit zanata.xml Feel free to comment on the bug to raise its importance :) Regards, Carlos A. Munoz Software Engineering Supervisor Engineering - Internationalization Red Hat On Thu 21 Aug 2014 02:01:21 PM EST, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Thu, 2014-08-21 at 09:58 +1000, Carlos Munoz wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Zanata is not currently able to "pull" source files from an external >> url. What we do and have helped other projects do is to set up an >> automated process (Jenkins works well here) to constantly push and pull >> source and translations files, and even make a commit to a git repo for >> updated translations. We can help out with this kind of setup if it's >> needed. > > If you have examples of this, that could be useful; thanks. Otherwise I > can happily do some Makefile fragments equivalent to the ones I have for > Transifex to do 'make update-translations' and 'make upload-pot': > http://git.infradead.org/users/dwmw2/openconnect.git/blob/3e7c5f83:/Makefil… > > The former attempts to eliminate zero-value updates, as you can see. > It's not perfect but it does a reasonable job of avoiding churn. > >> As for the API key being required to pull files, this is a requirement >> we recently introduced to try and have a fairer use of the server >> resources (i.e. someone hogging all the connections to the server). We >> can reevaluate this requirement if there's a strong need for it, and we >> are starting to look at scaling opportunities which might also make it >> unnecessary. > > OK. I think since the maintainers are the only people who are usually > expected to be pulling translations, it's not really the end of the > world to expect them to have an API key installed. > >> I think those were the two questions mentioned in the email. Let me know >> if I've missed any of them or if you have any others. > > One more... I run 'zanata-cli pull -t po --create-skeletons' and now I > have a bunch of *.po files in my po/ directory. Including an 'en-GB.po' > file. What is this 'en-GB'? I only have /usr/share/local/en_GB with an > underscore... >

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Re: Fwd: Are we still translating things?
by Noriko Mizumoto 20 Aug '14

20 Aug '14

>> Okay, I added two of them in the list of 'Upstream' group [1]. >> If those packages rather should belong to 'Main' group (which means Fedora >> package following Fedora development schedule), please advise. >> >> [1]:https://docs.google.com/a/griffithuni.edu.au/spreadsheets/d/1EFvaz8Fd7h-… > > Upstream doesn't maintain the translations themselves, so I suspect that > tracking it along Fedora's schedule makes more sense. Now moved both to 'main'. thanks n

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Re: Fwd: Are we still translating things?
by Noriko Mizumoto 20 Aug '14

20 Aug '14

I added Carlos to get help. (2014年08月19日 22:26), David Woodhouse wrote: > Hi Noriko-san, > > Thank you for your helpful response. > > On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 13:45 +1000, Noriko Mizumoto wrote: >> Now we are currently planning to move from Transifex to Zanata >> (fedora.zanata). 'fedora.zanata' instance will be newly created to >> accept translation for F22 onwards, but not set up yet. I am going to >> attend FESCO meeting sometime to discuss and find best timing to move >> for all maintainers. Then all necessary information will be sent out to >> each maintainer. I like to add your package in my list for this purpose, >> can you tell me the module name? > > There are two projects which need translation, although neither of them > are actually mine. One is gss-ntlmssp, which is Simo's project: > https://fedorahosted.org/gss-ntlmssp/ > > The other is krb5, which has NLS support upstream, but actual > *translations* are left for OS distributors to provide: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1126420 Okay, I added two of them in the list of 'Upstream' group [1]. If those packages rather should belong to 'Main' group (which means Fedora package following Fedora development schedule), please advise. [1]:https://docs.google.com/a/griffithuni.edu.au/spreadsheets/d/1EFvaz8Fd7h-… > >> Also if you like to receive translation for F21, your module can be >> added to 'translate.zanata.org' instance just for F21, where various >> open source projects including non-Fedora are registered. Please read >> the section 'Maintainers' on the workflow-overview page [1]. For F22, >> your module is required to move to 'fedora.zanata' instance. > > It might be worthwhile to set up gss-ntlmssp for F21, and that way I can > work on the integration — ensuring that translatable strings get into > Zanata automatically, and providing a makefile target to pull the latest > translations down from Zanata and commit them to the repository. > > I'd already offered Simo a 'make update-translations' target which > pulled from Transifex¹, so I'll update that for Zanata. Unless you > already have one? > > For the *source* documents, is Zanata able to automatically download > from a URL or does it have to be manually pushed? > > Also, is an API key required for zanata-cli to pull translations, or can > that be done anonymously? Carlos, could you kindly help and answer the above questions? Thanks noriko >

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[Fedora] Plan Stage 0: Move to Zanata
by Noriko Mizumoto 19 Aug '14

19 Aug '14

(This mail is cc'd to Infra and websites teams as this activity may impact Infra and websites teams.) Hi all translators, With all suggestions/ideas/info posted by all of you, I had first meetup with zanata team to draft a plan to start with. I like to share the news I got from zanata team here. I will update the plan page with the following information later tomorrow. The move will occur in parallel as suggested. The communication channels with zanata team are zanata-users ML [1] and #zanata channel on freenode. Due to the limited capacity/resource of zanata team, posting to ML would be appreciated than pinging on irc. I thank you so much to Zanata team! Stage 0 - Establish Test Instance on Openshift Available at: localized-zanatatest.itos.redhat.com Period: 4 weeks * This is trial run. Log in with FAS account and create new zanata account, and play. It is important to be loud and file a bug for any request [1]. Please make sure to append "[Fedora]" at the beginning of the subject. This will give a bug priority ;p E.g. [Fedora] Organization feature is needed. Stage 1 - Establish fedora.zanata.org (FAS only instance) Available at: TBA Period: n/a * This will contain only essential items, no history is imported. First every language coordinator needs to create new account and become your team coordinator. And then the coordinators will help and approve other translators to join. Note, there is no auto or transparent migration. Stage 2 - Import history and Add features requested Available at: TBA Period: n/a * History (such as reviewed marks, notification, translator credit per msg) and any additional feature requested (and approved) will be migrated. It is essential to evaluate and decide what level of history to be imported (or may be given up). [1]:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Zanata cheers noriko

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Zanata demo projects
by Carlos Munoz 19 Aug '14

19 Aug '14

Hi All, In order to offer the Fedora translation community a more hands-on experience when trying out Zanata, we have gone ahead and pushed a few sample project source files from their repos and onto the demo instance. I know some of you have already experienced the translation interface in the other Zanata instances, but for those who haven't you can go to the following projects to try it out: http://localized-zanatatest.itos.redhat.com/project/view/system-config-date http://localized-zanatatest.itos.redhat.com/project/view/anaconda Remember this is a demo instance, so there is no guarantee on how long the data will kept. Please don't hesitate to let us know if you have any questions. Regards, -- Carlos A. Munoz Software Engineering Supervisor Engineering - Internationalization Red Hat

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