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Re: New translator joining the i18n
by Noriko Mizumoto 29 Jul '15

29 Jul '15

This post should also go to trans list, thus forwarded. noriko (2015年07月28日 22:47), pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > On 27 July 2015 at 17:06, 조민우 <igtzhsou(a)naver.com > <mailto:igtzhsou@naver.com>> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I'm a new trnaslator joining this project, here`s my profile: > > ---- > > Name: My real name is MinWoo Joh and I prefer to be called 'Sewerx' > on the net. > > Location: Iksan(city), Jeollabuk-do(province), South Korea > > FAS- Login: Sewerx > > Language: Korean > > Profession or Student status: Student > > Hobbies and interets: Sound Engineering, System Admin~tion > > > Hi Sewerx, > > Welcome to Fedora Globalization group :) > > ---- > > And I need some help with joining to the team. Please help me. > > What I have done is: > > 1. Created FAS account (Signed the CLA) > > 2. Created Bugzilla account > > 3. Joined trans, trans-ko, i18n, l10n, bugzlia mailing list > > Rather than just join g11n list. > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n > We have recently started globalization group. > > 4. Created my own intro page at wikiou ca > > What I am confused with is: > > 1. I can't login into Zanata, whenever I log in with FAS account and > see the main page, I'm not logged in. How can I solve this? > > If dont get answer here either ask on #fedora-g11n or create ticket on > g11n trac. [2] > > 2. What is the difference between i18n and l10n, I've searched > through the wiki pages, but can someone tell me the clear > differences between them? > > > I18n is enabling infrastructure/application for language. i.e. providing > encoding, fonts, rendering engine support, locales, api to extract string. > l10n is translating words from English to Native language. > I18n is more on technical side, while l10n is more on expertise on > language side. Though in l10n one needs to learn technicalities of > translation framework as well :) > > 3. Is there anything more to do? Or anything that I must check? > > > You have joined on the right time. We are presently in active > development for Fedora 23 and good chance to get your contributions > included in Fedora 23 final release. > You should subscribe to g11n mailing list and also join Freenode > #fedora-g11n. > > I have added g11n@@lists.fedoraproject.org > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org> in cc of this email. Hoping someone > will answer it soon. Tomorrow we have bi-weekly meeting [1] feel free to > join it. Or you can also open ticket on trac is any issue [2] > > Best Regards, > Pravin Satpute > > 1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2015-07-29 > 2. https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/newticket > > > _______________________________________________ > g11n mailing list > g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n >

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Re: [Followup] Translation deadline around Beta
by Noriko Mizumoto 29 Jul '15

29 Jul '15

(2015年07月27日 20:46), pravin.d.s(a)gmail.com wrote: > > > On 20 July 2015 at 11:29, Noriko Mizumoto <noriko(a)fedoraproject.org > <mailto:noriko@fedoraproject.org>> wrote: > > Hi All > > I have looked through devel team schedule closer, and decided to propose > the move of all software translation related events rather than the add > another translation deadline, to minimize the impact to devel and > Rel-Eng teams. However I only have translator's view and not > developer's. If you think this is impossible with some reason, let me > know. Also it is much appreciated any input. > > > Thanks Noriko for preparing proposal. I think good to have Wiki page > rather than Document, it will help for collaboration on document :) All, I created wiki page, please have a look and add your comment/suggestion/question/anything under the section 'Amendment Suggestion'. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_New_Software_Deadline_Proposal noriko > > I am sure people will come with crazy ideas. One from my side. How about > having two String Freeze. One after Alpha and other after Beta. > Definitely there will not 50% packages will get change from Alpha to > Beta. Even if we assume only 50% packages gets change from Alpha Freeze > to Beta Freeze it gives us more time for Translations. > > Also for Fedora 23 it looks difficult to get this done. But at least we > should come to conclusion which we can use for scheduling Fedora 24. > Need to work with FESCO for schedule change. > > Lets brainstorm more on 30th Jul 2015 meeting :) > > Regards, > Pravin Satpute

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Minutes of G11N meeting 2015/07/29
by Pravin Satpute 29 Jul '15

29 Jul '15

Hi All, Following are minutes for todays meeting. ===================== #fedora-meeting: g11n ===================== Meeting started by pravins at 04:30:40 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-07-29/g11n.2015-07-29-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 04:30:52) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2015-07-29 (pravins, 04:30:57) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 04:32:42) * 2015-08-11 Alpha Release (pravins, 04:32:52) * 2015-08-25 Software Translation Deadline (pravins, 04:32:52) * 2015-09-08 Beta Freeze (*) (pravins, 04:32:52) * LINK: http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/23_Alpha_TC2/ (paragan, 04:34:07) * G11N FAD (pravins, 04:38:06) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/43 (pravins, 04:38:11) * IDEA: Can we get contributors from OpenStack for Fedora FAD (pravins, 04:48:11) * AGREED: Move Fedora FAD dates from 2-4 Nov to 1-3 November. (pravins, 05:00:13) * Zanata feedback survey (pravins, 05:00:34) * ACTION: ani aeng setup meeting 30th jul to discuss on zanata survey. Meeting on #fedora-g11n. (pravins, 05:06:03) * L10N sprints based on F23 (pravins, 05:06:19) * AGREED: We will have L10N sprint for Fedora. (pravins, 05:09:31) * Translation deadline around Beta (pravins, 05:10:24) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/2 (pravins, 05:10:40) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/g11n/2015-July/000019.html (pravins, 05:11:44) * We will need fesco ticket for updating deadlines for L10N. (pravins, 05:16:03) * ACTION: Create Wiki for updating Fedora L10n deadlines around Beta release. (pravins, 05:18:45) * G11N Infrastructure (IRC, Wiki and Ticket etc.) (pravins, 05:18:54) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ (pravins, 05:19:23) * ACTION: aeng noriko and pravins will work on creating Wiki for Fedora G11N. (pravins, 05:26:58) * FLTG revive plan for Fedora 23 (pravins, 05:27:39) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/g11n/2015-July/000022.html (pravins, 05:29:18) * Open Floor (pravins, 05:30:56) Meeting ended at 05:34:01 UTC. Action Items ------------ * ani aeng setup meeting 30th jul to discuss on zanata survey. Meeting on #fedora-g11n. * Create Wiki for updating Fedora L10n deadlines around Beta release. * aeng noriko and pravins will work on creating Wiki for Fedora G11N. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * aeng * ani aeng setup meeting 30th jul to discuss on zanata survey. Meeting on #fedora-g11n. * aeng noriko and pravins will work on creating Wiki for Fedora G11N. * ani * ani aeng setup meeting 30th jul to discuss on zanata survey. Meeting on #fedora-g11n. * noriko * aeng noriko and pravins will work on creating Wiki for Fedora G11N. * pravins * aeng noriko and pravins will work on creating Wiki for Fedora G11N. * **UNASSIGNED** * Create Wiki for updating Fedora L10n deadlines around Beta release. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (117) * ani (28) * aeng (24) * juhp (17) * noriko (7) * tagoh_ (5) * paragan (4) * zodbot (3) * anish_ (3) * epico (1) * fujiwarat (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot Regards, Pravin Satpute _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n

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[Bug 1135533] New: [Fedora] Display translator's preferred/main languages first before other languages
by Red Hat Bugzilla 28 Jul '15

28 Jul '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1135533 Bug ID: 1135533 Summary: [Fedora] Display translator's preferred/main languages first before other languages Product: Zanata Version: 3.3 Component: Usability Assignee: djansen(a)redhat.com Reporter: pswo10680(a)gmail.com QA Contact: zanata-qa(a)redhat.com CC: trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, zanata-bugs(a)redhat.com Description of problem: Most translators master their mother languages better than others. One project may have many languages to be translated; however, zanata should display translators' preferred/main languages first before others to save the time to search for those preferred/main languages. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 0. Log in as a non-English translator, for example, zh-Hant 1. Enter one project page, for example, fonts-tweak-tool https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/project/view/fonts-tweak-tool 2. Enter one version page, for example, master https://translate.zanata.org/zanata/iteration/view/fonts-tweak-tool/master?… 3. Languages showed to be translated Actual results: Languages showed to be translated, sorted by Alphabet ==> Afrikans > Albanian > Amharic... Expected results: Suggested as below, Languages showed to be translated, preferred/main languages first, followed by others which may be later sorted by Alphabet ==> Chinese (Traditional, Taiwan) [translator's main language] ==> Chinese (Taiwan) [translator's main language] ==> Chinese (Simplified) [translator's reference language/preferred language] ==> Japanese [translator's reference language] | Afrikans > Albanian > Amharic... Additional info: -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=w0BWvDReJC&a=cc_unsubscribe

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Update Application list for F23 L10n testing
by Ani Peter 27 Jul '15

27 Jul '15

Hi All, We need to finalize the list of packages for L10n testing scheduled for 18th August [1]. The current list of packages is at [2]. We need to cross check the latest list of F23 packages, remove/add the obsolete/new packages accordingly and update the applications list for testing. Lets meet some time this week to update the package list. Once this is finalised we need to update the test cases too. Thanking you Best regards Ani [1] - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/473 [2] - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-10-03_Translation_%28l10n%29 _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n

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[Bug 1169662] New: [Fedora] The language list in zanata and the Fedora language team list are not consistent
by Red Hat Bugzilla 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1169662 Bug ID: 1169662 Summary: [Fedora] The language list in zanata and the Fedora language team list are not consistent Product: Zanata Component: Component-UI Assignee: djansen(a)redhat.com Reporter: noriko(a)redhat.com QA Contact: zanata-qa(a)redhat.com CC: trans(a)lists.fedoraproject.org, zanata-bugs(a)redhat.com Hi Let's back to basic, it will be best to stick with the team page which has been created by each coordinator who knows their language best. I looked the team page closely, and would like to have the following modification for the language list to match with the team page. [Change] Baluchi => Balochi Chinese (China) => Chinese (Simplified) Chinese (Hong Kong SAR China) => Chinese (Hong Kong) Chinese (Taiwan) => Chinese (Traditional) English (United Kingdom) => English (British) wba => Warao [Add] Twi (tw) [Remove] Akan (ak) Thanks noriko -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/token.cgi?t=js2xwpB4xx&a=cc_unsubscribe

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[Followup] Translation deadline around Beta
by Noriko Mizumoto 20 Jul '15

20 Jul '15

Hi All I have looked through devel team schedule closer, and decided to propose the move of all software translation related events rather than the add another translation deadline, to minimize the impact to devel and Rel-Eng teams. However I only have translator's view and not developer's. If you think this is impossible with some reason, let me know. Also it is much appreciated any input. Thanks noriko _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n

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Fedora magazine article on Internationalization improvements in Fedora 22
by Pravin Satpute 15 Jul '15

15 Jul '15

Hi, $subject, article published today. [1] For Fedora 23, we will work on article focused on G11N features of Fedora 23. Thanks, Pravin Satpute 1. http://fedoramagazine.org/internationalization-improvements-in-fedora-22/ _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n

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Minutes of today's (15 Jul 2015) G11N meeting
by Pravin Satpute 15 Jul '15

15 Jul '15

Hi all, Minutes are as follows. ===================== #fedora-meeting: g11n ===================== Meeting started by pravins at 04:30:14 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-07-15/g11n.2015-07-15-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (pravins, 04:30:14) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/G11N/Meetings/2015-07-15 (pravins, 04:30:14) * Upcoming schedule (pravins, 04:31:36) * 2015-07-28 Alpha Freeze (*), Software String Freeze, Change Checkpoint: Completion deadline (testable), Bodhi activation point (pravins, 04:31:36) * 2015-08-11 Alpha Release (pravins, 04:31:36) * 2015-08-25 Software Translation Deadline (pravins, 04:31:36) * 2015-09-08 Beta Freeze (*) (pravins, 04:31:37) * Zanata feedback survey - Ani (pravins, 04:33:47) * ACTION: Ani to plan meeting to discuss on Zanata feedback survey. (pravins, 04:36:10) * Translation deadline around Beta - Noriko (pravins, 04:36:25) * G11N Infrastructure (IRC, Wiki and Ticket etc.) - Pravin (pravins, 04:38:50) * LINK: http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2015-07-09/ (pravins, 04:39:35) * AGREED: noriko (#fedora-l10n) and paragan (#fedora-i18n) last person will remain in channel to just redirect one who join there. (pravins, 04:45:38) * ACTION: pravins to file ticker against infra for g11n trac instance. (pravins, 05:02:00) * G11N FAD - proposal Pravin (pravins, 05:02:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council#Current_Members (pravins, 05:03:50) * ACTION: pravins to file ticket against council trac for G11N FAD approval. (pravins, 05:07:00) * FLTG revive plan for Fedora 23 - Ani (pravins, 05:07:32) * UTRRS - Satyabrata (pravins, 05:13:10) * LINK: http://utrrs-testing.rhcloud.com/ (pravins, 05:13:12) * Open Floor (pravins, 05:16:59) Meeting ended at 05:27:12 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Ani to plan meeting to discuss on Zanata feedback survey. * pravins to file ticker against infra for g11n trac instance. * pravins to file ticket against council trac for G11N FAD approval. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pravins (102) * juhp (27) * noriko (11) * Satya (8) * mfabian (7) * paragan (7) * tagoh_ (5) * zodbot (3) * ueno (1) * mkim (1) * epico (1) * fujiwarat (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot _______________________________________________ g11n mailing list g11n(a)lists.fedoraproject.org https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/g11n

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Luis Carlos Peters Motta
by Luis Motta 13 Jul '15

13 Jul '15

> Hi! > I'm Just Joined to Translators Team! > User:Luiscpmotta > > [1] > > Born July 26, 1963, a professor of electronics at 18 years old, > always > I have been a "hacker" long before the word "hacker" being associated > with the computer. First degree (incomplete) in Physics from the > UFRGS > in 1984, I became interested by computer since worked in laser > laboratory. There, we were still wearing 8-bit computadors and has > ventured me with programming in BASIC language. Involved with Linux > since 2002, my first distribution was Conectiva 5.0, based on Red > Hat. > I have several technical training in Networking, Security, Social > Networking, Marketing in Social networks. Recently I graduated in > Social Sciences in order to understand the impact of Information and > Communication Technologies in people's lives. I am currently a > computer > supervisor at a private school in my hometown (Porto Alegre) which > implemented the infrastructure of LINUX-based services. I also give > lectures on technology always linking the Software-Free and > sociological concepts. Recently I became a Python Zombie. > > > Nascido em 26 de julho de 1963, professor de eletrônica aos 18 anos > de > idade, sempre fui um "hacker" muito tempo antes da palavra "hacker" > ser > associada à informática. Primeira graduação (incompleta) em Física > pela > UFRGS em 1984, passei a me interessar pela informática visto que > trabalhava no laboratório do LASER. Alí, usavamos computadors de 8 > bits > e já me aventurava com programação na linguagem BASIC. Envolvido com > o > LINUX desde de 2002, minha primeira distribuição foi o CONECTIVA 5.0, > baseada no RED HAT. Tenho varias formações técnicas em Redes, > Segurança, Redes Sociais, Marketing em redes Sociais. Recentemente me > graduei em Ciencias Sociais a fim de entender o impacto das > Tecnologias > de Informação e Comunicação na vida das pessoas. Atualmente sou > supervisor de informática em uma escola particular na minha cidade > natal (Porto Alegre) onde implementei a infra estrutura de serviços > baseada em LINUX. Também dou palestras sobre tecnologias sempre > vinculando o Software-Livre e conceitos sociológicos. Tornei-me > recentemente um Zumbi do Python.

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