Hi,
During yesterday's meeting, we talked about making wiki more localized. What is this about ? For example, in french team, we often see french users reading english version of pages that have been translated! It's because there's no way to see if a page have been translated or not.
To solve this problem, i've been discussing with websites team. We're thinking about 2 different solutions: 1. Patch the wiki to list translations automatically for each page (i've dropped a message on infrastructure list this morning, to see if it's possible). Then it would be quite simple for us to manage translations (but not for infra team that would have to patch wiki). 2. Creating subpages, for each page, listing translations. There's a test page here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Wikipages It would require more effort for translation teams, but less for infra team.
Any questions, comments, or ideas ?
Regards,
Samuel.
Hi,
During yesterday's meeting, we talked about making wiki more localized. What is this about ? For example, in french team, we often see french users reading english version of pages that have been translated! It's because there's no way to see if a page have been translated or not.
To solve this problem, i've been discussing with websites team. We're thinking about 2 different solutions:
- Patch the wiki to list translations automatically for each page (i've
dropped a message on infrastructure list this morning, to see if it's possible). Then it would be quite simple for us to manage translations (but not for infra team that would have to patch wiki). 2. Creating subpages, for each page, listing translations. There's a test page here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Wikipages It would require more effort for translation teams, but less for infra team.
Any questions, comments, or ideas ?
I've seen some wikis to choose a localized page based on browser's user language, it would improve the usability, since the user is presented automatically with a localized page. But I don't how you enable this feature...
Regards.
I've seen various wiki's with automatic localization features as well, and thought I'd just throw in a few ideas.
(As a specific example, the Debian main page) Some pages will detect locale and automatically select the display language with of course is an extremely useful feature. Some wiki's however check and set this on every page, which especially for situations which you would want to look through a site in a certain language for reference or whatever, this feature is extremely annoying.
In fact I was looking through some sites on my friend's Korean computer, which I don't read at all, so I attempted to set the website in English, since there is a link to all languages on every page. I quickly found out even setting a page in English, navigating through site reverted back to Korean on every click-through.
Maybe not the highest priority feature, and I understand there are limitations with wiki code and cookies and stuff, but in terms of usability, possibly something to consider.
Justin Towson
On 6/27/07, Xavier Conde Rueda xavi.conde@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
During yesterday's meeting, we talked about making wiki more localized. What is this about ? For example, in french team, we often see french users reading english version of pages that have been translated! It's because there's no way to see if a page have been translated or not.
To solve this problem, i've been discussing with websites team. We're thinking about 2 different solutions:
- Patch the wiki to list translations automatically for each page (i've
dropped a message on infrastructure list this morning, to see if it's possible). Then it would be quite simple for us to manage translations (but not for infra team that would have to patch wiki). 2. Creating subpages, for each page, listing translations. There's a test page here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Wikipages It would require more effort for translation teams, but less for infra team.
Any questions, comments, or ideas ?
I've seen some wikis to choose a localized page based on browser's user language, it would improve the usability, since the user is presented automatically with a localized page. But I don't how you enable this feature...
Regards.
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I've seen various wiki's with automatic localization features as well, and thought I'd just throw in a few ideas.
(As a specific example, the Debian main page) Some pages will detect locale and automatically select the display language with of course is an extremely useful feature. Some wiki's however check and set this on every page, which especially for situations which you would want to look through a site in a certain language for reference or whatever, this feature is extremely annoying.
In fact I was looking through some sites on my friend's Korean computer, which I don't read at all, so I attempted to set the website in English, since there is a link to all languages on every page. I quickly found out even setting a page in English, navigating through site reverted back to Korean on every click-through.
Maybe not the highest priority feature, and I understand there are limitations with wiki code and cookies and stuff, but in terms of usability, possibly something to consider.
Justin Towson
Hi,
2007/6/28, Justin Towson grfpopl@gmail.com:
I've seen various wiki's with automatic localization features as well, and thought I'd just throw in a few ideas.
(As a specific example, the Debian main page) Some pages will detect locale and automatically select the display language with of course is an extremely useful feature. Some wiki's however check and set this on every page, which especially for situations which you would want to look through a site in a certain language for reference or whatever, this feature is extremely annoying.
In fact I was looking through some sites on my friend's Korean computer, which I don't read at all, so I attempted to set the website in English, since there is a link to all languages on every page. I quickly found out even setting a page in English, navigating through site reverted back to Korean on every click-through.
Maybe not the highest priority feature, and I understand there are limitations with wiki code and cookies and stuff, but in terms of usability, possibly something to consider.
Maybe the wiki could remember the last language a user selected with a cookie; for instance, if a user loads the english page, but then navigates to a spanish page, then the next wiki pages could be loaded in Spanish by default.